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Kurt,

Not commenting on the rest, but I'd like to make one point of information. 
 I'd avoid any special characters like the $ due to multilingual bytecode 
considerations.

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Antoine,

Freeing up a character here and a character there goes a long way.  Here 
are some suggestions.

>IMHO, each word is important:
>* App: we have both a global batch state and an application state. 
Updating the global batch state can 
>also end in error.

If there are only two states (or even if there are a couple others) and 
they are relatively common (many programs have variables that are named as 
such), the standard could possibly be modified to say "Application State - 
'A' (or 'A$') prefix" and do something similar with the other states.

>* State: we update both a state for error resuming and some file records.
'St' is a very common abbreviation for State.  Why not use this?

>* Upd: update operations are not the only one that can fail. Another 
likely error cause is Not Found 
>while chaining.
>* Fail: to distinguish success messages and failure messages.
Instead of 'UpdFail' or 'NotFndFail', why not 'Err'?

>* Msg: indicates a message identifier. There is also a wwAppStateUpdFail, 
which is a procedure return 
>code.
I'd keep this one.

>wwAppStateUpdFailMsg could become wwAppSttUpdFlrMsg
What about wwA$ErrUpdStMsg?

Another suggestion, in naming, from left to right go generic to specific.
That way the values will be grouped together in definition (assuming you 
keep them alphabetical).  This allows you to possibly change an 
abbreviation from 'Err' to 'Er' and still make it somewhat passable 
(especially if you group them together _and_ give the group of field 
definitions a heading).
There's probably all sorts of styles out there in regard to naming, but I 
honestly can't think of a situation where I couldn't get a field down to 
15 in length (if not 14, I like a space between the D spec and the actual 
field name).

Kurt
  
  
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I tend to agree with Michael.  Although I usually don't like names were 
there are several letters that represent an entire word - like wwASUFM.  I 
prefer to see names that use a 3 character mnemonic code.  Maybe something 
like wwAppUpdMsg.

Just IMHO.


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Personally, I agree with the convention team.  Having a name that is too 
long is just as hard to read (within the code) as a name that is too 
short.  The problem I have with longer names is that I often will run out 
of space in the extended factor 2 or other specifications where they are 
used.  I think a good meaningful name can be created within the 15 char 
limit.  Your example of wwASUFM is one that is too short.  (7 Chars)


Mike

rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 12/28/2004 05:24:52 AM:

>
> Hi group,
>
> I'm having an argument with the team that choose our shop's coding 
> style conventions. I'd like to have your opinion on the subject.
>
> The heart of the matter lies in this kind of constant declaration:
>
> DwwAppStateUpdFailMsg...
> D                 C                   '...'
>
> The convention team says this name is too long. They want everybody to 
> keep their names within the 15-character limit -- indeed, 13 
> meaningful characters after you add the two-character prefix.
>
> I think this name is already on the short side. Using so many
abbreviations won't make newcomers' work any easier.   > Still, isn't it
more readable than wwASUFM for instance?

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