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>> Ouch!!! Is that smoke coming out of your nostrils? Are those flames? :-) Yes. I don't disagree with much of what you say - but look at it the other way around ..... There are many managers in Rochester who believe that no one uses RPG any more. They believe that RPGers just keep patching old programs. We never add new functions to them and never write new programs in RPG. We know this isn't true. But it is a widely held belief. Saying IBM is stupid and should know better doesn't help. Clearly they don't know better - so if we want to keep working on the iSeries then don't we owe it to _ourselves_ to try to change that perception? I have fought IBM over these issues for more than ten years - so I'm out of this debate - I don't need to take on the whole user community as well. Jon Paris Partner400 www.Partner400.com
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