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I have to agree with you about leaving working code alone. New programming
techniques might cut down on development time, but it's hard to beet the 0
development time of an app that is already in production.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Carel Teijgeler [mailto:coteijgeler@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:41 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ServicePrograms VS normal Programs

Scott, 

I have to disagree with you on that.

Starting to use ILE concepts in an existing application is asking
programmers to reinvent the wheel. They have to spend time again in
rewriting, redesigning their applications with a ROI of $0.00. 

You may blame the programmer, but the decision to make the revamp of the
programmes is made by the management (negative perception? Perhaps.) Another
good reason is the old die-hard shop standards (programmers had to stick
to), that will never change.

And users are not that interested in the technically advanced (?) solution
the programme has been written; they are interested in functionality, easy
of  use and related price on value.

This is my post mortem on this dead horse, valued at 2 Euro cents, the
maximum ROI.

Regards,
Carel Teijgeler

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On 26-8-04 at 11:03 Scott Klement wrote:

>> I am asking this because I am Java programer and fresh RPG programer and
>> most of RPG things I learned from IBM's student books and Sourcers Guide,
>> but my collegues (who code in RPG all their life) have totaly diferent
>> aproach that doesn't meet any ruels (described in RedBook) of advanced
>and  modern coding.
>
>Unfortunately, this is the sad state of RPG programming today. RPG
>programmers refuse to learn new techniques, refuse to modernize their
>code, refuse to modernize their user interfaces.
>
>This ultimately leads to a negative perception among users and management,
>resulting in the system to lose market share -- despite it's technical
superiority.



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