RE: Using OO concepts in RPG -- RPG400-L

Joe, I am aghast, truly aghast.  "Luckily, Booth, there isn't a person today
working 
on the iSeries who would agree with you."  Apparently Hans agrees with me? 
I'm betting there may be one or two more souls out there too.    :)
 
Workstation support has been available from Day One.  Of course it was to a
printer, not to a CRT      But that was how we did interactive.  And so far
as CALL is concerned:  what is so special about that?  CALL was wonderful,
yes, but hardly a definitive break for Report Program Generating.
 
If you can accept the idea that display screens are nothing more than
another media for printing reports then perhaps you'd be more understanding
of the idea of RPG?
 
As to your demand that the head of the RPG Compiler team step down???  Maybe
 just maybe Joe, you are a tad out of line?  His bosses know what he's doing
  
 
So far as as advanced features are concerned...  I'd consider it quite a
major advance if I could use an edit code to print negative items Red, or an
edit code for double underlines.  Perhaps even a way to use Comic Sans 22
for a heading, or Report  Design Stationary  that can just be called and
used by the individual user for his/her reports. (I've always wondered why
we haven't had stationary long before now.  It is such a natural extension
to the product line.)     Or what about a user being allowed to send his/her
printouts to a server as a web page instead of to a printer?  These sorts of
advanced features would be a greater good for the iSeries Community than
creating yet another new way to do the same old things.  
 
 
RPG is a business-oriented product.  It was originally written and sold for
non-programmers to write business applications simply because there were no
programmers in existence excepting a few bit twiddlers that had no business
knowledge nor any need nor desire to learn business rules. 
 
There is no shame in having a simple to use language that is dedicated to
business needs, is there?
 
 
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Booth Martin   http://www.MartinVT.com
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-------Original Message-------
 
From: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Date: Saturday, May 10, 2003 10:40:10 PM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: Using OO concepts in RPG
 
> From: Hans
>
> Booth Martin wrote:
>
> > If we are talking about making RPG and UB2/400 into poor copy of other
> > languages, then that is a bad thing in my mind.
> >
> > Sometimes I have the feeling that all of us lose track of what
> RPG stands
> > for. Report Program Generator. That is what RPG is, and in my opinion
> > where it should remain. There is no other good report generator program
> > on the planet and we are asking that it wander from its roots. My own
> > opinion is that enhancements in RPG should stand the Litmus Test of
"Will
> > it help programmers generate better reporting?"(...)
 
RPG hasn't been used solely for report generation since workstation support
and the CALL were added. Luckily, Booth, there isn't a person today working
on the iSeries who would agree with you.
 
 
> Well said! I was going to reply to Joe's posting, but then your's came in
> and stated my point better than I could.
 
Except Hans. This needs to be seen by all RPG developers - one of the RPG
compiler developers thinks the language should stay a Report Program
Generator. No more advanced features. We need inkjet support.
 
I am aghast.
 
If you truly believe this Hans, then it is my opinion that you need to leave
the compiler team.
 
Joe