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>> I mean the whole idea of ILE is supposed to be to have all these little interchangeable parts and it shouldn't matter what language they are written in... It doesn't matter - as long as you don't do anything in the routine that depends on functions that other languages don't have. CL is not really an ILE language - they just cobbled in a couple of changes (some of which were screwed up trying to accommodate C) to do the bare minimum. As such it is limited to passing parms by reference. One day they may add VALUE support, but I'm not holding my breath!! Jon Paris Partner400
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