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Hans, It would be great to have someone of your caliber (I guess you are not interested), Bob or any other person with worthwhile views and experience as iSeries-toolkit administrators or developers to help guide the project. It would work well to use a system similar to the Apache voting system, where those that contribute help guide the project. I have used both the CPAN site you refer to and Source Forge. Source forge targets colaboration. CPAN is more like a bullitin board (ala Rusty's). You can indeed search Source Forge, and if you wan't site specific searching, there is always Google. My experience with CPAN has been bad so maybe my view is tainted. The search never works for me so I have to use Google. When I downloaded and installed the Perl iSeries port it did not work. It took me several hours to identify the problems and correct the build, which will not run as delivered. I would be happy to share my findings but with who? I can't submit a patch and there is no way to convey this to others. I have not looked at the Python port. Source forge supports forums, bug tracking, feature requests, notification, and many other services. Along with these there is support for CVS, a database, authorization, documentation, and more. David Morris >>> boldt@ca.ibm.com 03/01/02 06:41 AM >>> David wrote: > A couple of points on your response to Buck. It is not "David's" site. > > That is the most important part. I am currently the only administrator, Since you're the "administrator", that kind of makes it "your" site! But I accept your point that it's meant to be a collaborative effort. > but I would welcome the help and guidance of others. The > iSeries-toolkit site strives to supply the foundation for an > application > framework. It could easily support vertical applications. If you > have an interest rate computation or other useful routines, I will > give you developer access and let you check it in. > > I would hate to see the open-source initiative splinter at this point. > > And would urge you and Bob to consider working together with > the existing open-source community. It would take a lot of work > just to duplicate what Source Forge offers. I think there's still a difference between what SourceForge offers and what an "RPG Archive" site could offer. Look at CPAN (for Perl, at <http://www.cpan.org/>) or the Vaults of Parnassus (for Python, at <http://www.vex.net/parnassus/>).<~!B*+R^&>CPAN is an archive of much Perl code. VoP is an index site for Python code. Both provide search and locate capabilities. On the other hand, SourceForge is a useful tool for the collaborative development of software. But not all open- source code needs that model of development. Some code can be developed informally by one or two people, other projects may need a more formal development process. In other words, CPAN and VoP are where you go for the stable released versions of software, SourceForge is where you go to develop that software. The way I see it, an RPG archive site would be a massive directory or archive of all freely available code where you could go to search for and locate the code you want. That site may well include links to sites like SourceForge where you could find more current (and potentially less fully debugged) code. It may also include links to more small scale efforts. Whatever. As I said in a previous note, the ideal situation would be that whenever anyone asks how to do some particular task in RPG, the answer most commonly given would be "Download package WXYZ from the 'RPG Archive of Modules and Procedures'". BTW, for me personally, I have neither the time nor desire to get deeply involved with this kind of thing. For years, I've tried to encourage more open-source efforts among the RPG community, but whatever happens has to be organized and managed by the RPG community, in my opinion. And to be brutally honest, I'm still not entirely convinced that open source software can make much of an impact in this community. Cheers! Hans Hans Boldt, ILE RPG Development, IBM Toronto Lab, boldt@ca.ibm.com
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