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Outstanding!!



Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com
http://www.hanoverwire.com
717.637.3795 Ext.3040


                                                                                
                                       
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In a message dated 07/11/2001 1:30:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
MWalter@hanoverwire.com writes:
>
 Kathie,
 >We revamped our standards here to use RPGIV  and ILE concepts
 exclusively.
 >We currently use one consultant whose contract renewal was contingent on
 >his becoming at least somewhat fluent in this type of programming. He
 went
 >in kicking and screaming. But after a couple of months, he is pressuring
 >another of his clients into using these tools.
 >Just food for thought,
 >Mark

 Mark, I didn't mean to come off so whiny (sp?).... I have several RPGIV,
 ILE, SQL, etc. books that I will absorb, even JAVA and HTML are on my list

 of things to do, and on my bookshelf. I have gone to seminars, and read
 numerous articles. I have never been 'allowed' to use current technology
 at
 any client or employer. Forced was a poor choice of words on my part. I
 should have said, I hope I get the opportunity to use the latest and
 greatest, at a real client, on a real system, soon! Your place sounds like

 a great opportunity for that consultant.  I am currently rewriting an old
 icky system into a better old icky system at the clients demand. When I am

 finished, I intend to rewrite the whole thing again on my Timeshare
 account, this time making my self use the latest and greatest, on my own
 time, on my own dime, and show it to him again. I hope this experience
 with
 bring me up to the current standards of programming. I know I need to
 upgrade and make current my skill set. I was just pouting out loud. I got
 something out of Bucks message that he did not intend to say, and we have
 exchanged a few very encouraging emails chatting the whole thing out.
 Things are well with the world again....


Kathie



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 Kathie,

 Why not do something on your own instead of having to be forced?  I feel a

 person in our business should always be looking for better and easier ways

 to accomplish things.

 Scott Mildenberger
 -----Original Message-----
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 3:18 PM
 To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
 Subject: Re: What are the benefits of ILE?

 I really really really do hope I get forced into using the newest, latest
 and
 greatest some day! The sooner the better!
 Kathie


 In a message dated 07/10/2001 3:54:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
 jimlangston@conexfreight.com writes:


 That's okay, Kathie, but you will have to learn ILE when you get
 the consulting job at the company that uses ILE.

 I don't believe, especially for consultants, that you have the
 choice anymore to use or not use ILE, it's going to be forced on
 you when you run into it.

 Just as C programmers who maintain other's code are forced to learn
 OOPs and program in C++.  I just hope I am never forced to learn
 C#.






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