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But don't we first need to find out why a random number is needed in the first place? For example, shouldn't a UUID be used in many cases in which a random number is used? UUID is great for a key because it's guaranteed to be unique across systems. Check out the archives for UID in midrange-l and rpg400-l available at midrange.com. About the only thing I use a random number for is a password generator. Rob Berendt ================== Remember the Cole! Scott Klement <klemscot@klement To: "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com> s.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Random Number in PRG: example owner-rpg400-l@mi drange.com 04/25/01 10:30 AM Please respond to RPG400-L On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, DeLong, Eric wrote: > True, I added the time seed shortly after posting the example, and I too > realized that Hans' example was repeating sequences. It also occurs to me > that seeding by TIME (6.0) could be a bad idea is the program runs at the > same time every night (scheduled job). It's not hard to imagine the same > seed value being used repeatedly...... perhaps something more random like > milliseconds.... > > > Caveat: every time you run this, you will get the same sequence of > > `random' numbers. To get more truly pseudo-random numbers, seed the > > generator with (say) the result of the TIME opcode. Call me a purist, but... time is about the LEAST random thing I can think of -- it follows a rather well-established pattern. :) It may be true that when I'm typing the command to run a program on my AS/400, I can't predict at what millisecond the program will run -- but if I were a computer program, or a job scheduler, etc, my program would run at a rather predictable time. Even if the time a job starts varies a little now, as computers get faster it'll become more and more consistent! Therefore, I like to stick elements from the JOB NUMBER and DATE into my seed as well as the milliseconds. (Actually, I use microseconds) This makes me feel better. :) Here's an example: H DFTACTGRP(*NO) ACTGRP(*NEW) BNDDIR('QC2LE') D rand PR 10I 0 extproc('rand') D srand PR extproc('srand') D seed 10U 0 value D gettimeofday PR ExtProc('gettimeofday') D timeval 8A D timezone 8A D timeval DS D tv_secs 10I 0 D tv_usecs 10I 0 D sds D JobNo 264 269 D Junk S 8A D Epoch S Z INZ(z'1970-01-01-00.00.00.000000') D UTC S Z D Date S D D Micro S 6S 0 D DateStr S 10A D MicroStr S 6A D Seed S 10U 0 D SeedStr S 10A D num s 10I 0 D i s 10I 0 ** get current time c callp gettimeofday(timeval: junk) ** convert to a timestamp c Epoch adddur tv_secs:*S UTC c adddur tv_usecs:*MS UTC ** get date & microseconds in a char string: c move UTC Date c *ISO move Date DateStr c extrct UTC:*MS Micro c move Micro MicroStr ** make a seed C eval SeedStr = %subst(DateStr: 9: 1) c + %subst(MicroStr: 6: 1) c + %subst(JobNo: 6: 1) c + %subst(DateStr: 10: 1) c + %subst(MicroStr: 2: 1) c + %subst(JobNo: 5: 1) c + %subst(MicroStr: 1: 1) c + %subst(MicroStr: 3: 3) c move SeedStr Seed c callp srand(Seed) c for i = 1 to 10 c eval num = rand c num dsply c endfor c eval *inlr = *on +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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