Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? ) -- RPG400-L

Er, yes.  That is what I was saying.  People won't post because they are afraid
of getting RTFM responses.

What was it you were disagreeing with?

Regards,

Jim Langston

gcrane@johansonmfg.com wrote:
> 
> With respect, I disagree with your opinion Jim.  The RTFM response should not 
>be
> given on any list, but clear direction of what manual should be read.  This 
>then
> would not cause the entry level person to be afraid of asking a question.  I 
>was
> afraid to say anything in the very beginning and for months just read stuff.
> Now that I have gotten to feel I know I can say what I think, my fear is gone.
> But surely, the RTFM stuff had me running scared.
> 
> Jim Langston <jimlangston@conexfreight.com> on 01/16/2001 12:36:42 PM
> 
> Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com
> 
> To:   RPG400-L@midrange.com
> cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)
> 
> Subject:  Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I think that a lot of people are afraid to ask, "How do I..." questions
> a lot in fear of getting negative feedback.  Someone asks, "How do I create
> a web page in RPG" and will a lot of the times get RTFM responses.
> 
> With a list dedicated to eRPG people will be more open to ask questions
> relating to the very confusing world of CGI, HTTP, and RPG that's all
> intermixed.
> 
> I actually know of a programmer who had never touched an AS/400 who's shop
> got one, and inside of 2 months of being introduced to RPG had a functioning
> interactive web page up and running.  This was back when V3R7M0 was the
> latest and greatest.
> 
> We need to get used to thinking outside of the box.
> 
> I think a new eRPG list would help us out, and we would get more questions of
> a "I have no idea where to start" nature.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jim Langston
> 
> "Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)" wrote:
> >
> > Well I think we definitely are ahead 50 to 1, or 50 of us to 1 of Rob;-)
> >
> > Who is the moderator for this list?  Can you put in a request to Midrange to
> > make this change.
> > (man I fell like a _user_ now.  I haven't been on this side of the spectrum.
> > he he)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:51 AM
> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
> >
> > I would be concerned that it would be specializing the list too much.  Why
> > not a subfile in rpg list?  Why not an embedded SQL in RPG list?  Why not a
> > S/36 RPG list?
> >
> > Also, this would cut down on the exposure that others would receive to
> > programming CGI.  There are some shops which may not use it now, but, some
> > employees might see the light if exposed via this list.
> >
> > I do not feel that the amount of CGI discussion is distracting to RPG in
> > general.  Does anyone object to the volume of e-rpg discussions on the rpg
> > list in general?
> >
> > What would qualify something as E-RPG?  The use of the CGI routines?  The
> > use of net.data?  The use of sockets?  The use of SQL?
> >
> > We already have people who fire off questions to the RPG list which are
> > better off left at midrange-l, (and vice versa).  Now are these same people
> > going to fire off questions to all lists in the hope of getting a fast or
> > better answer?
> >
> > Who would subscribe to the e-rpg list and not the rpg list?  Gee, if there
> > is alot.  And I assume that the 'sharper' programmers are there.  Then see
> > the above paragraph.
> >
> > Who would subscribe to the rpg list and not the e-rpg list?  Did you
> > respond to the affirmative that you felt the amount of CGI discussion is
> > distracting to RPG in general?
> >
> > And now I think I have successfully opened the flood gates for a bunch of
> > email clutter not germane to rpg.  Sorry, but I felt the questions needed
> > to be asked.  Especially regarding exposure to new techniques.
> >
> > Rob Berendt
> >
> > ==================
> > Remember the Cole!
> >
> >
> >
> >                     jpcarr@TREDEGAR.C
> >
> >                     OM                       To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >
> >                     Sent by:                 cc:
> >
> >                     owner-rpg400-l@mi        Subject:     eRPG mailing list
> > (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
> >                     drange.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     01/16/01 09:14 AM
> >
> >                     Please respond to
> >
> >                     RPG400-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it would be a great idea.    I have been doing eRPG for a few
> > months now and I am very happy with what I have learned and what I have
> > done.    Is it an end all be all?   No,   Not any more than a Subfile
> > program is or a VB talent is.
> > But,  It is a good place to start for the AS/400 crowd.
> >
> > I would join the list if there was one.
> >
> > John Carr
> >
> > Since the future is happening now...
> > What do y'all think of starting an E-RPG mailing list?
> > The list could be specifically for browser based
> > programming, sockets, back-end business rules, so forth and
> > so on.
> >
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