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Gerald, here's a couple of results I've seen that management liked. Firstly, individual programs now are rarely over a few hundred lines long. The benefit of this is that a project finishes quicker, debugs quicker, goes through quality assurance quicker and is in production sooner. Additionally future enhancements and maintenance become relatively easy. Another advantage is that these smaller programs are picked up by new staff much quicker - their learning curve is much shorter for them and they are producing useful work in days instead of months or years. Secondly, while I can not explain this, it does appear to be true: programmers will produce applications that do things that you could never do before. Management will see their data sliced and diced in new ways and they'll dare ask for reports and drilldowns that have terrified us programmers until now. One other comment I'd make: the technical learning curve is much shorter than the real learning curve. Suggest to them to start slowly and think in terms of a two or three year transitional period while your shop begins to unleash the power in 64 bit processing. _______________________ Booth Martin Booth@MartinVT.com http://www.MartinVT.com _______________________ "Gerald Magnuson" <magnuson@knapheide.com> Sent by: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com 01/16/2001 11:33 AM Please respond to RPG400-L To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com> cc: Subject: Help us migrate to ILE RPG We are a small shop (3 programmers, 1 manager). We need to convince management on cost benefits of migrating to ILE. (time justification is what they want the most) We have very limited knowledge currently of ILE concepts, and new enhancements in ILE RPG over RPG3 (RPG400 ((non-ILE RPG)..) but part of the migration plan is to get new standards in place and learn the concepts (We are making good progress on this.) We have very old code we are maintaining and must not break. We are a 24-7 shop, and have a large project backlog. ok, I have shown that we are not different than 80% of the other shops out there. We need a good place to find a concise, accurate plan of time, and material we need to perform the migration to ILE. We only want to take immediate advantage of a few ILE features right away. Long field names, max files (no, we cannot re-write those huge apps), change some programs to service programs that are called all over the place. We think we need the following items to move ahead. 1) the concise answer the following question. "What parts of RPG3 will NOT work in ILE RPG?" 2) programming standards, style standards for our shop 3) a tool to perform the conversion 4) a complete timeline-milestone chart of the conversion project. 5) a benefits list. Can You please either e-mail me what information your shops used in this process, or direct me to the best places I can find to get this information. Thank You Gerald Magnuson Knapheide Manufacturing Company Quincy Il. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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