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R Hello All, Yet another series of diatribes I should know better than to join, however ... The point is not really loyalty, nor how wonderful the AS/400 is technically, but how much money can be made from it. That is what happens when you put a biscuit manufacturer in charge of things. IBM's current view is that they are no longer in the hardware and software business. They are in the services business. Hardware and software is merely a tool to that end. Hence the focus on e-business. They now hold the same view as the other services groups -- KPMG, Arthur Anderson, CSC, etc. -- and that view is "What can I sell that will generate the most money?". Note: that is not the most profit on an individual sale but the most money in the long term. If a customer is sold an AS/400 it is basically a one-time sale. Sell the hardware and software and perhaps some services to install it and get it running. Then what? A few phone calls a few times a year "So, Mr Customer, How're things? Anything I can help you with?" "No Thanks," the customer replies "We're doing all right!" An occasional upgrade? That situation does not help keep the hordes of 'consultants' employed by these service organisations in work. They would have to find NEW customers all the time. It is far better to sell customers a Unix or NT solution where you know you will be back every second week doing something for them. So none of these 'consulting' outfits is interested in selling a solution that doesn't have a huge amount of added service possibilities. It is also much easier to sell something to a prospect if that prospect has been conditioned to think that what you are selling is what they want. That is Micros~1 main claim -- their marketing is so good most people believe that they want what Micros~1 has. Imagine yourself as a technical consultant presenting the new network/desktop strategy/solution to a large organisation. If you suggest Win2K everyone will nod their head and think you know your stuff, if you suggest some form of *nix for the network and some variant of Win-whatever for the desktop, many heads will nod and a few will request that you make a technical case for the suggestion. If however, you suggest Warp Server for e-business as the network solution and Macintosh systems for the desktop, which is arguably the better solution (excluding AS/400s) you ***WILL*** have to justify it and will end up arguing the case with every man and his dog who reads a PC magazine trumpeting Win-blows. So what they do is sell you what you want, not what is good for you. Wake up customers, you are doing yourselves a disservice. IBM used to care about the customer. They may have been regarded as the "Evil Empire" before Gates and his mob of cut-throats usurped that position (although the DOJ and the anti-trust suits against IBM effectively left a power vacuum that someone would fill) but it was mostly competitors who felt that way about IBM, not customers. That's not to say that IBM hasn't been guilty of playing fast and loose with pre-announcing vapour-ware but generally what they were doing was in the best interests of the customer. One of Thomas Watson Jr.'s beliefs was "IBM should first take care of customer's profits, then should take care of employee's profits, and if those two are taken care of then shareholder's profits will be taken care of automatically." Can anyone tell I've recently re-read "Father, Son, and Company"? The cookie monster should take a leaf from Watson's book (but no company songs, OK!). IBM (well, the management really) only care about the stockholders profits now. Why? Because some of the largest stockholders are IBM's management! Gerstner wants to retire rich(er). So what do we need to do to improve the position of the AS/400? Open source isn't going to do it. It doesn't matter how many AS/400 programmers provide open-source utilities and products. The AS/400 is not in the same boat as Linux or eveR OS/2 (except that it's sinking -- sounds like time for the "Bailing Programmers" exercise). Linux will survive as open source because the OS is available and device drivers etc can be built. It can also be obtained without recourse to a large corporation. OS/2 is similar if you currently own it. Anyone with a C compiler can write device drivers for new hardware, tools, and applications also even if IBM stop selling it. That is not the case with the AS/400. If IBM stop selling or supporting it then it will die. No amount of work on our part will keep it going. We cannot support new hardware since no-one will be manufacturing it. No-one will run an AS/400 at home just 'cause they like it. They will do that with Linux, OS/2, BeOS, Mac (or even the poisonous concoction that is Windoze). The ideal solution is for IBM to do what is right and proper, and stop sleeping with the enemy. Piss off AIX, Linux, and Win-whatever. Concentrate on the good aspects of what IBM currently have. The mainframe, AS/400, and OS/2. Don't just sell the customer whatever they think they want, rather sell them what is good for them. But do it without arrogance (or least a minimum of arrogance). Sell the benfits. There are reasons that Token-ring is better than Ethernet, OS/400 is better than Unix, OS/2 is better than Win666. Inform customers about why IBM's solutions are the right way, sell them that which will improve THEIR bottom line and THAT will improve IBM's bottom line. Can you imagine OS/390 as a web server? How many transaction per hour do you think that can support? Can an NT or *nix farm compete? Hah! The new AS/400's are well and truly into mainframe territory now. They've been low-end mainframes for quite some time but the new 24-way 800's are the fastest commercial machines available. Imagine those used in e-business? Don't look for services in the "support a piece of junk" arena, rather look to adding value to the customer's current business. Help the **customer** make more money and they will make you money. Another solution is to make the AS/400 harder to support. Not less reliable but make it require a raft of bodies to manage it. It seems that Rochester has embarked down that road with QSHELL, WebSphere, PASE, etc. All this stuff is much harder than it has to be. And it has all been ported to the AS/400 with the minimum amount of 400-ese. None of this stuff looks like it belongs on our box. It looks like *nix. That's great for the vendors of *nix applications -- minimal work, new market. It's great for IGS and their ilk -- more services. It's even great for the customer from a very narrow point of view -- more applications, more commonality. But it's not great for the customer from a wider view point because it costs more to support. That hurts the customer's profits. Don't get me wrong, I happen to think that Java is great (it's not going to replace programming as we know it but will have a significant impact in client-server development, e-business, and cross-platform development). I think WebSphere is magic -- when it works, but it is a royal pain when it doesn't. Is the problem in the HTTP config, or the WebSphere config, or the Java config, or is it just that WebSphere doesn't feel like playing properly at the moment? Your guess is as good as mine! I have seen enough of WebSphere to know that sometimes it just refuses to properly compile JSPs, so you retry until it does -- but you waste a lot of time checking the config and examining your code before you realise that it's just the way WebSphere is. Great for services 'cause all that investigation is chargable time but it's not productive and it certainly isn't right! Another possibility. Let's put Win2k on the AS/400 hardware as a native operating system. Rumour has it the MickeySoft suggested that to IBM -- I wonder in whose interest that would be? It sounds like a good way to kill OS/400 completely. The hardware stays reliaRle but the OS haemorrhages regularly? That's good for support services. Put it in separate partitions (LPAR) to reduce the damage. Or Rochester apply their collective genius and make Win2K reliable in the process of porting it. Then what? Rochester becomes a purveyor of hardware only and is bought out by uSoft to ensure that OS/400 is truly removed as a threat. Where does that leave us? Programming in VB or J++ on AS/400 hardware? That's neither fun nor to the customer's benefit. Where is the inovation from Rochester then? They have already lost a significant number of their best people to the likes of the D.H.Andrews Group. And those who are left are doing their best to help Micros~1 replace the AS/400. We already require Win-whatever to manage and configure an AS/400. How much more help will Rochester and IBM give to the new Evil Empire? Will they stop when the AS/400 is relegated to simply a DB server or Java server? Or will they actually help nail the coffin shut and fill in the grave on top of themselves? IBM are currently rolling out Win2K as the internal platform of choice -- desktop, file and print serving, and mail. Despite the fact that is is more expensive and less reliable than the VM system it is replacing in many spots. Despite the fact that it is actually cheaper to continue to use OS/2 than buy Win666 and spend REAL money (green dollars rather than blue dollars) even if the discount is good. What position will IBM find itself in when it is totally dependant on software from MickeySoft? Do you really think Balmer is a better bet than Gates? Gates may have been the Emperor but Balmer is the Dark Lord of the Sith. He's far more politically astute than Gates. He'll nod to the DOJ, say the right things, and make one hand appear to be complying but the other hand will be squeezing tighter and tighter. All of us in the IT industry are in for a very rough time with Darth Vader at the helm. IBM is one of the few organisations with the resources to combat that and not only survive but be in a stronger position afterwards. The final, and to my mind best, choice is to stay with the AS/400 but be very vocal in demanding better marketing. Realise that you get what you pay for and stop opting for the cheapest solution. AS/400 hardware could probably be cheaper but the software is expensive because (for the most part) it works properly. It costs money to develop good quality software. PC software is cheap because much of it is crap and because it has a larger market and can amortise costs over a larger user base. Follow the example of TeamOS/2. Be vocal about the benefits of the AS/400, make sure your organisations realise exactly what it does for them, and how much more expensive it would be to replace it with something else. If we can persuade the customer that it is better to buy quality then IBM will listen because they will have to. The ground will have shifted and we'll all be much happier campers. IBM has some very capable people and Rochester has more than their fair share but none of that will help unless we can change IBM's perception of what it is we (as customers) want. To do that we (the techo's) have to change the customer's (our employers and others) perception. We have to be honest and ethical and vociferous. Since I'm in a slagging mood I'd also like to bitch about Dr F.S. as the "Father of the AS/400". There were at least a dozen other MAJOR players in the development of the S/38 and its follow-on. One thesis does not a daddy make! I understand his contribution and the advantages of picking one person as the focal point, but credit where credit's due. And that means more than a couple of cursory sentences in a book. That particular monicker has been irritating me for quite a while. This should be a candidate for a "In My Not-So Humble Opinion" piece. 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