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I was gonna just be quiet but I have to complement you on your choice of desktop environment. It has been my experience that BSD is slightly more stable than Red Hoax, it must be the little red devil. Anyway, back on topic, don't you guys see what you are all saying? Brad said that, and I agree with him, that some folks on this list are twitching to see the 400 fold. For the most part it is consultants - reason? They can sell another system to their clients and the consultants are none the worse. << Please note that this opinion of MOST consultants will never change. >> Scott you said that basically you fear that IBM is neglecting the AS/400 out of existence, that is so true that it saddens me. I spent many years trying to understand the 400, and learning to use the powerful and highly stable tools supplied - and yes learning to love the power - that I don't want to see it go. Each of you hinted at the reason that IBM is doing this. Ted Holt, in this months issue of Midrange Computing, says simply that IBM is in the business of selling hardware and software and it stands to reason that they will throw more resources in the direction of those platforms which offer the highest return on that investment of resources. So in essence IBM is starving the AS/400 slowly but surely. For the AS/400 to be spared the chopping block it would need to quickly become a cash cow. Face it, there is more money in Wintel-ish, and *nix systems. The hardware is less reliable than that found in the 400, and so is the software(hardware vendors must be salivating now). The demand for boxes is higher, because the number of programmers, and new (LOW COST) applications is greater, and the hardware life span is lower than the AS/400. The number of new applications available for linux is increasing at an unbelievable rate. Literally over night Linux jumped for a cool hackers OS to a viable corporate desktop environment. Those of us who have a love of the box, and a vested interest in its future would do well to study the monumental success in the linux community and adapt their methods to our platform. What to do what to do? It makes all the business sense in the world to recognize change and fall in line behind the leaders - IBM has mastered this in recent years - but such bandwagon jumping will only carry you so far. In our industry changes are happening on so many fronts that there is no way attack them all and no need to limit ourselves to one. GUI, in my opinion is a good thing as far as it goes but it wont carry the AS/400. GUI applications account for a small portion of the most popular apps server side apps - those with a text based interface or none at all make up the bulk of applications running today and the foreseeable future. GUI can in no way account for the blinding popularity of linux. Most linux guru's prefer the command line that is one reason the command line is so accessible and powerful even from the graphical desktops of Gnome and KDE. What then? It all boils down to the great number of apps available. Cool apps attract hackers, or hobbyists as some prefer to call them, hackers become active developers adding to - or enhancing functionality of - the number of cool apps. More hackers/developers mean an ever increasing demand for hardware, thus pushing hardware makers to innovate and compete. Innovation and competition among hardware vendors means that the costs of hardware drops dramatically over very short periods of time. And then the cycle starts all over again, but it all begins with a drop in the bucket, low cost software! -- L. S. Russell Programmer/Analyst Datrek Professional Bags, Inc. 2413 Industrial Drive Springfield, TN. 37172 mailto:leslier@datrek.com http://www.datrek.com -- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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