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  • Subject: Re: Windows As A Development Workstation
  • From: "John Taylor" <john.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:29:38 -0600

Jim,

It's becoming apparent that many people are jumping to conclusions about PC
editors without taking the time to do some research. Code/400 does not
require Client Access, so your security fears are misplaced. Even if it did,
there is nothing that says you have to install it on every user's
workstation just because you have it on your development machine.

You should give it a try. Not so much for the editor (since you're happy
with SEU), but rather for the SDA/RLU replacement. Although I still find
myself using SEU for small changes or viewing source, I never use SDA
anymore.

Regards,

John Taylor
Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Langston" <jlangston@conexfreight.com>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:14
Subject: Re: Windows As A Development Workstation


> I've been fairly quiet through this discussion, but thought I'll chime in
here.
>
> I don't think it's a question of which OS is better than any other OS, but
> what is best for *me* to enter RPG code into my AS/400.
>
> I have an NT network here (NT Backoffice 4.0), and we have PCs (Win95
> and Win98).  We are connected to a WAN with our main office (we recently
> merged with a larger corporation that also uses AS/400's).  Through all
this,
> I still connect to our AS/400's using either 5250 dumb tubes, or 5250
green
> screen emulation (Mochasoft).  We do not have Client Access even installed
> on our network, although most of the other corporate sites do.  I still
enter
> code using SEU.
>
> Windows has it's advantages over OS/400 (try to show a JPG on a 5250
> dumb tube) as far as look and feel, but OS/400 has it's advantages over
> WinTel also (stability, database, etc...).  It's a matter of right tool
for the
> job, as stated.
>
> Now, I am not going to be installing Client Acess on my systems here if
> I can help it because of the huge security whole this opens up to my data
> base, and I haven't found the time to research and write all the exit
programs
> I would need to ensure data security and itegrity.  Which leaves me
entering
> code in SEU in a green screen.  Which is fine and dandy, and works well
> for it's purpose.  Now, I'm learning that IBM has decided that they don't
like
> the 5250 screens, they are going all client/server based whether I like it
or
> not, and who cares if client access blows a whole in my AS/400 security
big
> enough to drive a SQL database through, I'm going to either like it or
lump it.
>
> It is no small wonder that Microsoft totally blew the doors off of IBM as
far
> as software sales goes.  IBM has no idea what people want, nor what they
are
> doing.
>
> I will continue to use SEU to enter code into my AS/400, and while I"m at
it
> I will stay at V3R7M0 so IBM can't really force me to do anything.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Langston
>
> Paul Cunnane wrote:
>
> > With all due respect, I think it's unfair of you to compare Windows to
> > *real* operating systems like OS/400, VMS, AIX etc. My copy of W2K cost
less
> > than $500, OS/400 cost us $50,000. I think it's reasonable to expect
more
> > from the latter.
> >
> > If you want to make a valid comparison, then compare it with DOS, OS/2,
Mac,
> > and now Linux. I don't know about you, but I've used all four of them
and
> > had them lock up to the point that a reboot was required.
> >
> >      Respect noted and reciprocated, but I'll go head-to-head with W2K
vs
> >      Linux anytime.  My lil' SuSE box has been up for 23 days (and it
was
> >      down only to be physically carried to another room), despite just
> >      today re-compiling the entire desktop environment (Gnome 1.2).
> >
> > In any event, I'm not interested in an OS debate. I use the best tool
for
> > the job and avoid getting religious about it. My original point was that
if
> > you are avoiding the move to a PC based editor simply because of the
> > unreliability of Windows, you don't have to let that stop you anymore.
> >
> >      Agreed that an OS debate is unproductive.  If, however, your choice
of
> >      PC client is not Windows, you are dramatically short on options for
an
> >      advanced source editor.  (Once again, any takers for RPG and CL
Emacs
> >      modes? :)
> >
> >      --
> >      Paul
>
>
>
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