Re: eRPG - RPG-CGI -- RPG400-L

Hi Hans,

It's really an amazing answer.
But I was wondering if instead of only pushing
WebSpehere and Net.Data, we should integrate Java,
Perl etc. to write web-apps. Why can't we write Java
programs as simple as we write RPG on As/400? Also can
we use Java classes through something like prototyping
in RPG?
And the green screen must go. It really is making RPG
programmers frustrated.

There can be many possibilities of exploring.

Thanks,
Rajeev.


--- boldt@ca.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> > P.S.   remember Hans and Barb don't write business
> apps in RPG,
> > Don't think they ever did(? to my knowledge),
> > They write  the RPG compiler.
> 
> L.S. wrote:
> >Yes, that is a great point. They are greatly
> helpful, but should you
> >follow the advice of a scientific programmer when
> it comes to business
> >programming?
> >I don't mean this as a slam against them.
> 
> No slam taken!
> 
> True, Barbara and I aren't business programmers,
> however,
> it is definitely a part of our job to understand
> business
> programming.  That's why we participate in these
> (and
> other) forums.  Furthermore, just a couple of weeks
> ago I
> was with a group of IBMers meeting with a customer
> in
> Houston to discuss how to move their green-screen
> app to
> the web.
> 
> But I believe part of our job is to understand more
> than
> just how programming is done on the AS/400.  I
> believe we
> need to understand what the competitive pressures
> are
> elsewhere in order to understand what needs to be
> done in
> the AS/400 arena.
> 
> Let me summarize my recent journeys in learning: 
> About
> two years ago, my education plan was two words: 
> "Learn
> Java".  This required me to pick up HTML, which is
> easy
> enough.  But within 4 months, I was also learning
> Linux.
> This led to a few other things:  Perl, CGI, and even
> some
> Apache (among other things).
> 
> Sure, Linux and Apache and Perl is a great
> combination for
> web applications.  But then, so is the AS/400.  But
> quite
> frankly, in my opinion, we need good tools like
> WebSphere
> and Net.Data on the AS/400 to compete against
> solutions
> like Linux/Apache/Perl.  CGI programming in RPG just
> can't
> compete in that marketplace.  Forgive me for being
> blunt,
> but that's the way I see the current situation.  And
> I
> don't think I'm not alone in that opinion.
> 
> I agree that RPG-CGI is an easy way for programmers
> with
> existing RPG skills to get a web app up and running
> in the
> short term.  However, I also maintain that over the
> long
> term, RPG programmers would be better off learning
> tools
> like WebSphere or Net.Data.  Not to replace RPG, but
> to be
> used in conjunction with RPG.
> 
> Cheers!  Hans
> 
> Hans Boldt, ILE RPG Development, IBM Toronto Lab,
> boldt@ca.ibm.com
> 
> 
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