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RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)

  • Subject: RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)
  • From: Linda Blodgett <LINDALB@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:57:01 -0500
 
If you are sharing - I'd like a copy of your cheat sheet - thanks in
advance!

Sincerely,      
Linda Blodgett
Programmer/Analyst
320-808-2490

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbryant@banpharm.com [SMTP:dbryant@banpharm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:10 AM
> To:   RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's
> the            diffe  rence!!!)
> 
> 
> 
> I started using RLU back in 1993 (I think), I didn't know anything at all
> about
> external printer files at the time (migrated from S/36 to AS/400).
> Midrange
> Computing puplished a "Cheat Sheet" (if you will), for the commands and
> "how to
> use RLU".  It was pretty easy (especially for a dummy like me) to follow.
> I
> can create a new report layout or change a report in just minutes and they
> look
> very nice. I probably would have been very discouraged without the cheat
> sheet
> though.
> 
> The other week I showed a co-worker how to use RLU, (he has been
> programming
> much longer than I) and he was very excited and impressed. I think I have
> him
> hooked on it now.
> 
> My 2 cents worth.   : - )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |--------+------------------------------>
> |        |          Phil.Conibere@tgb.to|
> |        |          yota.co.uk          |
> |        |                              |
> |        |          04/11/2000 09:44 AM |
> |        |          Please respond to   |
> |        |          RPG400-L            |
> |        |                              |
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>   |       To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com                    |
>   |       cc:     (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm)         |
>   |       Subject:     Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE   |
>   |       RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the          diffe     |
>   |       rence!!!)                                        |
>   >--------------------------------------------------------|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting, I didn't think many people used RLU because it's so
> unfriendly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> dbryant@banpharm.com on 11/04/2000 13:47:01
> 
> Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com
> 
> To:   RPG400-L@midrange.com
> cc:    (bcc: Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB)
> bcc:  Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB
> 
> Subject:  Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
>       diffe    rence!!!)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Have you used RLU lately?  It is absolutely GREAT!!  O specs (ugly), might
> as
> well be an RPG-II program.
> With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or
> even
> knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You
> can use
> the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can
> copy, move
> and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight
> fields and
> underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions
> available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your
> TODAYS
> date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all.   Also you
> can
> print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
> RLU is cool!!!
> 
> IMHO.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |--------+----------------------->
> |        |          "Jim"        |
> |        |          <jcannon@anti|
> |        |          gua.com>     |
> |        |                       |
> |        |          04/10/2000   |
> |        |          01:36 PM     |
> |        |          Please       |
> |        |          respond to   |
> |        |          RPG400-L     |
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>   |       To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com                    |
>   |       cc:     (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm)         |
>   |       Subject:     Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE   |
>   |       RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe   rence!!!)  |
>   >--------------------------------------------------------|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> very well said! I agree!
> 
> From:               "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
> To:                 "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
> Subject:            external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' .
> What's the
> diffe
>      rence!!!)
> Date sent:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
> Send reply to:      RPG400-L@midrange.com
> 
> Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:
> 
> External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one program,
> which
> is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then
> keep
> it in the RPG source!
> 
> Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
> BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years
> ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer
> DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a whole lot you
> can
> do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.
> 
> Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue
> with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much
> more
> maintenance than new development.
> Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
> Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there.
> External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
> Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit sessions, two
> compiles.
> Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors
> in
> the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you need to
> check
> the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
> DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.
> 
> All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do printer specs
> either way.
> 
> Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to
> describe
> these things externally."
> 
> - Dan Bale
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> > Sent:   Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> > To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:     Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
> >
> > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in
> > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> > safer to
> > describe these things externally.
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