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If you could send a copy of this cheat sheet on RLU to my personal email I would greatly appreciate it. Right now I define my printer files externally but it strictly a hit or miss when it comes to centering and columns and such. I waste a lot of time going in, out, run a test print, go back in and try again. LAC -----Original Message----- From: dbryant@banpharm.com [mailto:dbryant@banpharm.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:10 AM To: RPG400-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) I started using RLU back in 1993 (I think), I didn't know anything at all about external printer files at the time (migrated from S/36 to AS/400). Midrange Computing puplished a "Cheat Sheet" (if you will), for the commands and "how to use RLU". It was pretty easy (especially for a dummy like me) to follow. I can create a new report layout or change a report in just minutes and they look very nice. I probably would have been very discouraged without the cheat sheet though. The other week I showed a co-worker how to use RLU, (he has been programming much longer than I) and he was very excited and impressed. I think I have him hooked on it now. My 2 cents worth. : - ) |--------+------------------------------> | | Phil.Conibere@tgb.to| | | yota.co.uk | | | | | | 04/11/2000 09:44 AM | | | Please respond to | | | RPG400-L | | | | |--------+------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: RPG400-L@midrange.com | | cc: (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm) | | Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE | | RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe | | rence!!!) | >--------------------------------------------------------| Interesting, I didn't think many people used RLU because it's so unfriendly. dbryant@banpharm.com on 11/04/2000 13:47:01 Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com To: RPG400-L@midrange.com cc: (bcc: Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB) bcc: Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) Have you used RLU lately? It is absolutely GREAT!! O specs (ugly), might as well be an RPG-II program. With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or even knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You can use the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can copy, move and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight fields and underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your TODAYS date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all. Also you can print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper. RLU is cool!!! IMHO..... |--------+-----------------------> | | "Jim" | | | <jcannon@anti| | | gua.com> | | | | | | 04/10/2000 | | | 01:36 PM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | RPG400-L | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: RPG400-L@midrange.com | | cc: (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm) | | Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE | | RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) | >--------------------------------------------------------| very well said! I agree! From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com> To: "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com> Subject: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) Date sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400 Send reply to: RPG400-L@midrange.com Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but... IMNSHO: External printer files - BLEAAHHH! If it's used in only one program, which is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then keep it in the RPG source! Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years ago. Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows? There's really not a whole lot you can do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output. Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue with me. For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much more maintenance than new development. Internal: One source member. External: Two source members. Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there. External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said. Internal: One edit session, one compile. External: Two edit sessions, two compiles. Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors in the RPG source. External: When RPG compile error occurs, you need to check the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG. All that said, I always follow the shop standards. I can do printer specs either way. Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to describe these things externally." - Dan Bale > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it] > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!! > > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and > safer to > describe these things externally. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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