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James, I understand most of the acronyms and use them. But "u" and "ur" are not acronyms, they're just lazy or, perhaps, "hip" (think "the artist ?!?!? formerly known as Prince"). Per the high cost mentioned by your Japanese friend, they better not be on _this_ list, what with original posts still being quoted in their entirety several reply generations later! ;-) Sherry, I did, in fact, recognize that AKK's primary language may not have been English. However, AKK's use of "Experienced programmer" and "expectations were somewhat higher" indicated to me that "you" and "your" should easily have been expected to be in his/her spelling vocabulary. Like you, I do not expect perfect English in what is really a global forum. But I would like to think that professional people will put forth at least a minimum of effort to make legible their questions and/or responses. No offense was taken and, certainly, none intended on my part. My intent was to persuade the participants on this list to keep it professional and legible. All of us are learning here; I've been in the IBM midrange for 16 years now and being on this list (as well as the midrange-L) has been a humbling experience. About the only time people get unruly on this list is when the person asking doesn't RTFM (Read The F****** Manual). StpOffSbx Option(*JmpRun) (IBM convention for Stepping Off Soapbox, Jumping & Running), - Dan Bale "James W. Kilgore" <qappdsn@ibm.net> wrote: About 4 years ago I first got started on this whole "internet" thing and, to this day, still have a hard time trying to figure out some of the shorthand. I responded to a post that ending with YMMV and stuck my foot in my mouth by asking, what does that mean? Your Move M... V...? You Make Me Vomit? I was informed that it meant: Your Mileage My Vary. Webster (how coincidentally ironic) needs to create a new dictionary! As I understand it's a leftover from the "old" days of 300 to 1200 baud connections. When characters meant time. That was until a few month's ago when a friend of the family visited from Japan and told me about their cost to receive email. Characters count. He pays, to get his email, about what you or I would pay for a long distance phone call. Per minute. On top of his phone charges. Per minute. So I've learned that posting in cyber shorthand is a courtesy when it's broadcast to unknown members of a list. In keeping with IBM's naming conventions, I'm going to drop the vowels <g> Jms W Klgr "Sherry McMahon" <smcm@frontiernet.net> wrote: I think I was giving AKK the benefit of the doubt in assuming English was his second language and thought he did doing pretty darned good with it. As someone still trying to master this language my hat is off anyone who can successfully tackle a second, third or fourth. And I was waiting for your reply to his question. I have only five years of experience and get very uncomfortable when I'm treated as the senior programmer. I consider myself still at entry level because I have so much to learn yet. This mailing list is a wonderful source of information and an asset to me in my work. But I've noticed that some on the mailing list come down pretty hard on those of us who don't have the level of experience the majority of you have. I don't say this by way of criticism but just trying to say, bear with us, what may be silly, no-bainer questions to someone of your experience is usually something we need to know but have no one else but those on this list to ask. There I go assuming again, that I'm not the only one in the position that books, the internet and this mailing list are my only sources of solving my AS/400 problems. This was not meant to offend anyone. Please don't take it as that. Sherry McMahon +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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