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Sounds suspiciously like VisualAge for RPG!! I don't suppose there's any way to take all those nice visual "parts" and port them back to the green screen...naw, thought not. Whatever about the 5250 data stream enhancements (and I don't see them happening), I reckon much of what you desire could be provided using a good DSM wrapper service program. It's a project I've had in mind for quite a while now, but never had time to even start the groundwork on. And then there's UIM... ____________ Paul Cunnane The Learning Company ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: "extract" command enhancement Author: boothm@ibm.net at InterNet Date: 20-09-99 8:22 pm ah man, off we go. More %bif stuff. Sorry, but I can't see where this really offers much value to the programming community. These %bifs may be fun and really good for trivia tests and certification exams, but if there's all this energy to burn why not some energy directed to the green screen which is far from dead? Why not subfiles that ordinary programmers can write from scratch in less than two days? Why not windows that act like windows and don't need extensive programming to set pushbuttons or footers for the window? Why not a simple way to leave the underlying screens undisturbed during and after the window's display? Why not some way of using all of the colors without those damned column separators? Don't get me wrong - I like %found. I like Eval. I like longer field names. There's lots of things I like, but day in and day out I have to deal with presenting subfiles to users and frankly I am finding that even with a family of generic templates a subfile still takes a couple of hours or more to get "just right." Having a %bif that was a "subfile part" coupled with a %bif that was a "window part" that included the border, heading area, message line (or not) and the F-keys as text or mouseable pushbuttons (not hot spots!) and choice of colors without column separators would make my programming a lot more effective than %bif-your-date will in a dozen years. That is a personal opinion, not expert testimony. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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