RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"

You mean, I should swith from IBM RPG to IBM Suitcase's?

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 11:12 PM
>>> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>>> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> According to IBMers IBM is moving towards making profit off 
>>> software since
>>> they make more money off the suitcase they sold to hold the 
>>> AS/400 P3 than
>>> they did off the P3. Hard is NOT where the money is in the 
>>> non-PC world--not
>>> anymore anyway.
>>> 
>>> Bob Cozzi
>>> 
>>> http://www.RPGIV.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com 
>>> [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
>>> > Behalf Of Colin Williams
>>> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:44 AM
>>> > To: 'RPG400-L@midrange.com'
>>> > Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I think your wrong here. IBM do not want to sell 
>>> software, they want to
>>> > sell hardware, and only sell software as a buy-product, 
>>> because nobody
>>> > will buy hardware that has no software.
>>> >
>>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>> From: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
>>> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 5:32 PM
>>> > >>> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>>> > >>> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Flipping burgers is a growth industry, yes.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> But it is not that those IT managers know that the CF-specs
>>> > >>> are coming at
>>> > >>> some point in the future. It is that today, they are
>>> > >>> struggling to get there
>>> > >>> apps to work, updated, or moved to RPG IV or another
>>> > >>> platform. To add
>>> > >>> another variable to the mix at this critical stage in the
>>> > >>> life of the AS/400
>>> > >>> is disappointing to me.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> IBM apparently doesn't care if you buy As/400 or an NEt
>>> > >>> Finity server. They
>>> > >>> want to sell software. Well they never wrote an AS/400
>>> > >>> piece of software
>>> > >>> that took over the world, so to me, that means we may have
>>> > >>> a problem with
>>> > >>> the future of the AS/400.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Bob Cozzi
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> http://www.RPGIV.com
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>> > From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com
>>> > >>> [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
>>> > >>> > Behalf Of Dave Shaw
>>> > >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:17 AM
>>> > >>> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>>> > >>> > Subject: Re: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>> > From: Bob Cozzi <cozzi@rpgiv.com>
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > >Buck,
>>> > >>> > >
>>> > >>> > >If tech savvy managers are not moving to RPG IV because
>>> > >>> they don't have
>>> > >>> > >programmers who will be able to maintain it (as 
>>> suggested in
>>> > >>> > several other
>>> > >>> > >posts) how will adding yet another flavor (the CF-spec)
>>> > >>> enhance the
>>> > >>> > >manager's willingness to use RPG IV? I believe it will
>>> > >>> not. It will have
>>> > >>> > the
>>> > >>> > >opposite effect, hence my dislike of introducing 
>>> the CF-spec
>>> > >>> > today. Perhaps
>>> > >>> > >after a few years of RPG IV code, if people want to go
>>> > >>> the 'RPG V' route,
>>> > >>> > >then sure, go ahead, but in today's world, CF-spec will
>>> > >>> kill RPG IV.
>>> > >>> > >
>>> > >>> > >But, hey I only speak from talking to thousands and
>>> > >>> thousands of RPG
>>> > >>> > >programmers, not a few dozen respondents from this
>>> > >>> mailing list (as IBM
>>> > >>> > >apparently does).
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Please define "today", Bob.  My own personal definition
>>> > >>> of "today" doesn't
>>> > >>> > include "the release after next", "late 2000 or early
>>> > >>> 2001", or any of the
>>> > >>> > other availability dates that have been suggested as
>>> > >>> being reasonable
>>> > >>> > forecasts for this thing actually hitting the streets.
>>> > >>> If there's really
>>> > >>> > that many pointy-haired bosses who are concerned about an
>>> > >>> optional feature
>>> > >>> > that they probably won't even be able to use for 
>>> more than two
>>> > >>> > years, then I
>>> > >>> > think I better look into the burger-flipping 
>>> opportunities that
>>> > >>> > are supposed
>>> > >>> > to be so plentiful these days.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > ---
>>> > >>> > Dave Shaw, Spartan Mills, Spartanburg, SC
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>>> > >>> > The opinions expressed may not be my employer's unless
>>> > >>> I'm sufficiently
>>> > >>> > persuasive...
>>> > >>> >
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