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Perhaps with the introduction of C++ and the rewrite of VMC (now called SLIC) in C++, they consider AS/400 to be Object Oriented. When I wrote that tip of the day, it was still only object-based. :) Bob Cozzi www.rpgiv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rajeev Asthana <Rajeev_Asthana@paramount.com> To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 12:33 PM Subject: RE: CodeStudio or CODE/400 > Hi Bob, > > This question may not relate to the current discussion. > I found in the "Tips of the day" that - "AS/400 is an object based system, and > not object-oreinted". Is it true? > Cause if I see the AS/400 Handbook, they say AS/400 is object oriented. And I > also feel that it's object oriented and of cource object-based. > What's your comment? > > Thanks, > Rajeev. > > > > > > "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@rpgiv.com> on 07/02/99 09:01:13 AM > > Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: CodeStudio or CODE/400 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Teff <jteff19@idt.net> > To: <whynot@rpgiv.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:40 PM > > > > Why is your company not using CodeStudio, IBM's CODE/400 or a competitive > > product today? > > > > I work for a consulting firm. I own my own laptop, but most do not. > Even > > so, most clients will > > not let me hookup my laptop to their network. Most will not allow you > to > > load your own software > > on one of their PCs either. Copying source files to disk to transfer > > between the client's > > system and my laptop forfeits any possible efficiency gains. For a > hefty > > $1200 price, there > > is no way to justify this expense either for me or my employer. I would > > like to say, "Give > > consultants a break on the pricing. They can then expose their clients > to > > these tools. It would > > be like a promotion." But, I don't really believe that as the clients, > > for the most part, will not > > let you really use it. > > > > On a personal note, I've either used or demo'd Code/400, CodeStudio and > > FlexEdit. I did > > not care for FlexEdit as it was too PCish. Both CodeStudio and Code/400 > > are more > > intuitive for AS/400 people. I preferred CodeStudio over Code/400, but > > after visiting with > > Bob Cozzi at COMMON a while back, I did not feel that CodeStudio was a > > top priority. That > > made me re-think my decision to purchase at that time. I'll take > another > > look at CodeStudio > > when the new version (demo) is available and make a decision then. > > > > What would it take to get your employer to purchase CodeStudio for your > > staff? > > > > I personally believe that I could sell the CodeStudio software to my > firm > > if I really believed > > that it would make them more productive. I don't doubt the tool, rather > I > > doubt that they will > > really be allowed to use it at the client sites. The sticker shock for > > CodeStudio is very much > > less than for Code/400! > > > > What feature or features would cause you to purchase your own personal > copy > > of CodeStudio? > > > > One thing missing from all of the products is an easy to digest way of > > learning the product. > > If I want to learn other topics, there are a many books available that > > make learning easier. > > This is not so in the AS/400 world. I realize that the market is > greater > > for these other books. > > On the other hand, so what. Learning from a reference book doesn't get > it > > done. On-line > > help is great, but it needs to be context sensitive. Reading a screen > > just isn't like reading > > a book. A well done book can be both a reference manual and a learning > > guide. I know there > > are many features of Code/400 that I do not use. But, then I don't have > > time to spend trying > > to find all of these nuggets either. > > > > Joe Teff > > Information Technology Consultant > > IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 RPG Programmer > > Quality Data Systems > > One Meridian Crossings Suite 810 > > Minneapolis, MN 55423 > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * This is the RPG/400 Discussion Mailing List! To submit a new * > * message, send your mail to "RPG400-L@midrange.com". To unsubscribe * > * from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com and specify * > * 'unsubscribe RPG400-L' in the body of your message. 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