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> From: John Taylor > > I don't think it's as simple as that. Today's software is so complex that > it's astoundingly easy to trick the average user into installing anything > you want them to. You don't need to take advantage of a buffer overrun. > Just pop up a message telling them that their Flash player is out of date, > and that it will be automatically updated if they click "Ok". Nine times > out of ten, you'll end up owning their system. The virus scanner helps > mitigate this by essentially keeping a catalog of malicious software. I disagree. Stupid users defeat all automatic methods except maybe the thing client (or auto-refresh on reboot). The only proper combination is good software, as you suggest, AND good user training. But if users were trained to not click on the button and Microsoft software had even a modicum of quality control, then it's my contention that most of these virus writers would wither and die, because without those buffer overrun exploits (very simple to fix), most things would be impossible, and it wouldn't be worth the effort. There would still probably be a few mutant nerds out there trying to create worms, but it wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar business. But you're correct that some software to help users guard against themselves is a good thing, and I include myself as a user. Some of the stuff (and this is particularly true of Windows-based attacks) is so bad that all you have to do is mistype a URL and your machine is toast. > This is not really a Windows-only problem. But Windows makes it far, far, far, far easier. Yeah, I think four "fars" is about right. Joe
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