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I think we are all on the same page.

No "router" between the DSL/Cable mode and IPCop.

IpCop is the router.  Eg: It is what moves packets from the internal network
and the external one (eg: The Internet).

But you do need a Hub or Switch to connect the other machines together with
IP Cop.  

*IF* it is possible to turn the "router" and "firewall" pieces of the
Gigabyte box off, then you probably could use it as the switch.  But if
either of these pieces remains active in this config, it will cause you
headaches!

You can get a brand new hub from CompUSA for $27 .  Spend a few dollars more
and you've got a 10/100 auto sensing Switch for $40 

Hub:
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50002269&pfp=B
ROWSE 

Switch:
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=222946&pfp=BRO
WSE 

For the money, I'd get the switch.  Much better and darned near the same
price.

When sizing, you'll need 1 port for the IPCop box, and then a port for each
additional device.  

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:12 PM
> To: PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users
> Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Networking via router?
> 
> I had a similar question, Bob. The Gigabyte would not need to go between
> the modem and the IPCop box, right? That seems what you said in clarifying
> my post a while back (thanks for that).
> 
> But the Gigabyte, if configurable as a switch, would connect to the inside
> of the IPCop box (green?), and the PCs would all connect to the Gigabyte,
> right? Dan could get 3 or 4 PCs hooked up this way, I think.
> 
> Thanks
> Vern
> 
> At 12:53 PM 10/5/2004, you wrote:
> >Why use the Gigabyte?  Cause I thought you wanted to.  <g>
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Dan Bale
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:24 AM
> > > To: PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users
> > > Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Networking via router?
> > >
> > > > The only thing pluged into the Gigabyte would be your cable/dsl
> modem
> > > and
> > > > the Red interface of the IPCop box.
> > >
> > > Why even bother using the Gigabyte then?  First line of defense?
> > >
> > > > Clear as mud yet?
> > >
> > > <g>  I appreciate the education I'm getting here.
> > >
> > > db
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx / Bob Crothers
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:58 AM
> > > >
> > > > You would not connect your PCs to the Gigabyte.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing pluged into the Gigabyte would be your cable/dsl
> modem
> > > and
> > > > the Red interface of the IPCop box.
> > > >
> > > > Then the Green interface of the IPCop box would plug into a
> different
> > > > hub/switch.  This hub/switch is what all of your network would plug
> > > into.
> > > >
> > > > Then you just do Peer to Peer networking between your windows boxes.
> > > The
> > > > IPCop box doesn't really have much to do with your resource sharing
> in
> > > the
> > > > windows world.
> > > >
> > > > But they will share the Internet connection via IPCop (your "default
> > > > gateway").
> > > >
> > > > Clear as mud yet?
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
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