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Tom, You way "recommended fix" so does that mean you got to a URL to download that ? If so, can you do that (URL) from another PC and download & burn it a CD ? This sounds too easy and I imagine you would have thought of that already, but I was confused by: "... there are references on microsoft.com and links to follow that lead to Windows Update for the fix." and "But when I connect with another PC -- which has a different display adapter and therefore has no need for no stinkin' AtiBt829.sys update" And as long as am restating what you have probably already done, did you see this: http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/57/57239.htm or maybe this: http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=57239 HTH :-) P.S. My wife avoided computer for a LONG time (stay at home mother) because while she appreciated that they provided our income via my job with them, she resented them because at the time I was working 60 hour weeks (salaried) and on call 24X7, 365/6 :-) She has been using one of our PC's now for about 2 years and has gotten pretty good with it, but she has developed an additional exercise program for me. The computer she uses is in an extra room and I am downstairs doing something and I hear "Chuck, can you come here for a minute) and it's up the stairs, quick question/brief explanation and back down, and sometimes it repeats :-) Chuck -----Original Message----- From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Liotta Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:43 PM To: pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCTECH] W98 to W2K upgrades Though I'll accept all suggestions, this is more a rant than a request for help. My wife has used a PC we've had for some 6 years. She's no computer person by any means, but has gotten well into e-mail, browsing and similar PC functions. Spends nearly as much time as I do at her keyboard. Nothing fancy... 333Mhz, 256MB. Upgraded from the original W95 to W98 SE a couple years ago when I had a spare license. Another spare license brought the attempt to upgrade to W2K this weekend. Upgrades were motivated by desires for more stability. Start the upgrades by general cleanup -- everything from running a couple rounds of RegClean to removing unused programs and apps to disk defrag. Common stuff. The primary concern was to make the newly upgraded PC look as similar to the previous version as possible while getting the benefits of an OS upgrade. She has the apps she uses and knows; they do exactly what she wants them to do and there's zero need for new bells and whistles. (An ideal 'user'.) Now the rant... The W2K upgrade does _not_ like the ATI 3D RAGE PRO AGP display adapter. I have no idea why not. When it boots, the logon window appears; and approx one minute later, the system crashes hard with a DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error in AtiBt829.sys, does a memory dump and reboots. Shouldn't be a big deal. Search for info in various forums, search for W2K drivers, etc. I found a few, downloaded, transferred on floppy, used Safe Mode to work some replacements, but clearly not to the point of making a difference. Go to microsoft.com for Hardware Compatibilty List issues or driver updates. But... Though there seem to be a few issues with AtiBt829.sys and W2K upgrades, there are apparently _zero_ sets of suggestions on exactly what to do. No info anywhere on how to actually update the drivers. Microsoft Windows Update is the real knee-slapper in this case. Of course, there's no way to connect to Windows Update with the PC in question; I need to connect with a different PC in order to download what Microsoft recommends in this case... and there does seem to be a recommended fix, there are references on microsoft.com and links to follow that lead to Windows Update for the fix. [THE rant:] But when I connect with another PC -- which has a different display adapter and therefore has no need for no stinkin' AtiBt829.sys update -- Windows Update provides no way that I can find to get to the recommended fix. Aaaaggghhhh. All links go to Windows Update. Meanwhile, there's Mrs. Me tapping her foot in the background... "When can I have my computer back?" Fortunately, Safe Mode shows that all the e-mail archives and documents and photos and everything else are still intact. Sigh. Tom Liotta
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