Re: Recovering XP Pro after Thinkpad hard disk -- PCTECH

Chuck

Chuck Lewis wrote:

Gary makes good suggestions and if you are having to go so far as to
reinstall the OS, I'd reformat the drive too.

It is mandatory when you reinstall.

Do you have a broadband connection ?

I live and work in a rural area and although wireless broadband has been promised by a local entrepreneur, it hasn't happened yet, so my only choice is ISDN. The UK is very backward on high speed connections, unless you are in a big town or city. I could move but I live and work in a nearly 700 year old fortified medieval stone gatehouse and I don't wish to leave at present. There are no others around!

If you do, and they do it in the UK like they do it here, the cable company makes you think you have to do NOTHING once they hook you up. The FIRST thing I did was get a Linksys router to do NAT. Also use Zone Alarm and Sophos Antivirus (from your neck of the woods, by the way).

I was thinking of using Sophos as they are not far away..

If you connect up to the internet without this stuff your "had". I saw something a couple of weeks ago that said once you connect, they are I can't remember how many hundred scans (automated) that find you in a matter of minutes and then attacks coming back against that with the hour ! Unreal.

Apalling! Why aren't the large companies, such as IBM, doing anything about this?

Many thanks

Best wishes

Rob

Good luck !

Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Kuznitz Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:05 PM To: PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users Subject: Re: [PcTech] Recovering XP Pro after Thinkpad hard disk

Hi Rob,
Sorry to hear you are having so many problems.  There are many ways to
attack
this problem.  Probably everyone that has an opinion will give you a
different
solution that will probably get you going.  The question is how clean will
the
Thinkpad be after you are done.  If it was me (Only because I like a clean
running PC)  I'd format the drive and re-install the recovery disk.  Not
mandatory but that's what I would do.  Then before connecting the Thinkpad
to
any network I would go to a different PC and download ZoneAlarm from
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/zap/trial/zapDownload
Tria
l.jsp
and eTrust AntiVirus from
https://www.my-
etrust.com/services/ipe_support.cfm?CFID=13169705&CFTOKEN=139fefe-00040695-e
51a-
1f4c-bb43-942f4512d026
I'd write them to a CD,  Remove any AntiVirus currently on the ThinkPad and
install both programs.  Make sure to re-boot after each.  Then make sure to
update eTrust signature files as the first thing after connecting to the
internet.
Now it would be a really good idea to run Windows Update and wait for it to
completely download and update your Thinkpad.
That's probably going to be a days worth of work but you should end up with
a
clean protected Thinkpad.
Ok.  Now everyone can fire your cannons at me.  I'm sure there are going to
be
lots of opinions and shorter ways of getting back to work.
Gary Kuznitz
On 27 Aug 2003 at 16:53, Rob (Rob Dixon <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>) commented
about
Re: [PcTech] Recovering XP Pro after Thinkpad har:
I wonder what you all will think of this.

My hard disk went on my Thinkpad T30 and IBM sent me 3 recovery CD's for

XP

Pro.

It took about three hours to load these. I connected to the internet and started to download Netscape as the first stage of recovering my other software. After a short while (20 minutes?) , my machine suddenly reboooted for no apparent reason. At this point, it occurred to me to implement the XP Pro firewall on my connection.

I restarted the download which became very slow and kept disconnecting. At one point when it had stopped downloading, I happened

to

notice that there was considerable outbound traffic on my network

connection,

even though I felt that there should be no traffic in either direction. I checked and found that my T30 had sent 426,117 packets yet had only

received

53,872. When I disconnected from my network, no process on the T30

complained

that the connection was broken., but as soon as I reconnected, it started

to

send out a stream of data again and continued to recieve at a lesser rate.

I know of no way to find out on XP which process is transmitting data (although it may exist). In Task Manager, I found that DLLHost .exe was consuming between 55 & 98% of processor time. A search on google

suggested

that this was a virus.

I do not know whether, if I had implemented the firewall immediately, I would have had the problem.

I logged a call to IBM UK support.

I explained what had happened. I said that that the T30 had been manufactured in January 2003 yet the recovery CD's were dated August 2002. I felt that IBM should either have sent out a recovery CD for the current state of XP Pro or the original ones with an extra CD with MS

service

packs and patches. But most importantly, how was I going to recover?

Of course I knew what the answer would be before I asked the question - "Re-install the recovery CD's". I said that I had better things to do and that it would probably happen again as soon as I did. The conversation went round and round in circles. My view was and is that IBM had supplied a product - XP Pro - that was not of marketable quality

and I

said so. I was advised to contact Microsoft but I said that I had no

contract

with them as it was IBM that had sold the product. I was also told that

the

T30 as supplied had a recovery partition, but I explained, through gritted teeth(!), that that was of little use if the disk had gone. I was also

told

that if I were to purchase a brand new T30 today it would have the August

2002

version of XP Pro without any service packs. I said that I found that hard

to

believe.

In the end, all I was able to do was to log a compliant. I received no help in working out what damage the virus might have done, although I did find a lot of empty folders in Windows/system32 created or modified

after

I had re-installed XP Pro, presumably when the virus was active. I have killed it but don't know whether I really have to start installation

again.
The newly created/modified folders in Windows/system32 include
3com_dmi
1025
1028
1031
1033 (& others)
CatRoot
CatRoot2
Com
Config
....
Reinstall Backups
etc.

They all seem to be empty.

Does anyone know if they have any purpose? Should they have any contents?

Any ideas what the virus might have been transmitting and to whom?

Maybe these were created during installtion and modified by the virus

Do you think I should re-install or rely on Anti-virus software to sort it out?

What do you think of IBM's response?

PC's are supposed to be consumer products which we can just turn on and use but they are not. I believe that IBM and other large suppliers should put severe pressure on Microsoft to improve the quality of their products. Of course, what can they do if MS does nothing other than to create new, equally bad, products, is not clear, but I am beginning to think of trying Linux, although I don't wish to become a Linux expert.

It is totally unacceptable that an effectively new machine should acquire a virus so soon after startup.

Many thanks

Rob Dixon
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