Re: [IBMiOSS] Node troubleshooting for noobs?

The thing I cannot live without is tab completion. Sometimes I have to
work in QP2TERM (customer hasn't started *SSHD server) and I have to retype
paths often. Tab completion takes the pain out of navigating the file
system.

Aaron Bartell
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Jack Woehr <
jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The main reason SSHing into Bash is encouraged is that the a lot of
programmer/user convenience is contained in the terminal conditioning.

The QP2TERM terminal is 5250-oriented and very limited, esp. keystrokes per
se make no impression upon it.

Unix utitilies, e.g., more , respond to keystrokes.

ANSI terminal escapes are possible over SSH but not in QP2TERM.

You don't know the half of user convenience in a Bash shell until you are
in via a character stream terminal such as your Linux or Windows box
provides over SSH.


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

SSH is the protocol to communicate with the (bash) shell which runs in
PASE. At least that's how I interpret it. Others might be able to

explain

it better.

What downsides have you seen?


Aaron Bartell
IBM i hosting, starting at $157/month. litmis.com/spaces


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm trying to use SSH because it's the "right thing". So far I've only
seen downsides to it. Can you elaborate as to why it's better than

PASE?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Yeung [mailto:gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:42 PM
To: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IBMiOSS] Node troubleshooting for noobs?

Aaron said:

Stop using QP2TERM and use SSH instead. It will solve future

heartache.

Justin said:

I've loaded PuTTY now. It's not like the Bash shell I'm used to, and

I'm not a fan. I'm sure I can find the help files and make it work.

If you are used to any of the Unix or Linux shells at all, and want to
even vaguely replicate the experience on PASE, then QP2TERM is simply

not

an option. You need a proper TTY interface, which SSH provides and

which

5250 does not.

Whatever worst-case scenario you have with SSH is already better than

the

best possible 5250 scenario, with respect to command-line interface on

PASE.

John Y.

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