Re: SEU versus vi and Vim (was: Is COBOL dead?)

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Regardless of the positive/negatives of VI, VIM, and/or SEU, they are all
still text editors in the end. EMACs come very close to Eclipse (I use it
on my Linux boxes) but it's still not a true development environment. It
is however free whereas Rational is not, nor should it be.

What constitutes a "true" development environment is dependent upon
the developer. There are a handful of admittedly big-ticket modern
luxuries that are lacking or weak in Emacs, like context-based code
completion, real-time warnings, object introspection, and refactoring
tools. But it's truly amazing what can be accomplished through Emacs
Lisp, multiple buffers, and hooks to the operating system command
shell.

My feeling is actually that Emacs is *not* that close to Eclipse, if
for no other reason than that Eclipse was designed from the ground up
to be a GUI and is pretty good at taking advantage of everything that
entails; but that Emacs *is* a true development environment, in that
you can use it to do all your compiling, debugging, and much more. I
considered Turbo Pascal for DOS an awesome (and *true*) IDE for its
time and platform. Emacs far surpasses that environment.

John