What am I missing here? What spawned this conversations?

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:53 PM, cfuture <cfuture@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I count myself tremendously and hugely blessed that I've never been
asked to do something illegal or even in my view unethical. And not only
that, I've never seen illegal doings that came up to the level of
reporting.

There is a fiduciary responsibility associated with various
professionals.If your company is doing stuff that you think is illegal, you
first have an obligation to bring this to the attention of management. If
management does not take action that you feel is appropriate, then your next
responsibility is to figure out if there is a government agency you need to
be a whistleblower to report the activity. If you do not report it, and the
government later finds out, investigates, there is the presumption that you
should have known about it, should have reported it.

Pretty much it, except when it's the government that is doing it.. Or
often certain functionaries therein..

Actions to cause global warming are not yet considered to be illegal.
There was a lady in Newfoundland (or Nova Scotia?) a few years back that
got fined three thousand dollars for failing to put her recycling out
properly... There was a guy in I think Louisiana who was fined big
whopping money, thousands, for filling in "wetlands", because he
recovered a water hole that he himself had dug. (These are true stories,
not making them up)

But changing the official records of historical temperature measurement
to support the "global warming" story, by NASA, in official government
documents, is not illegal.

However. this sort of thing can vary across international boundaries.
...
Which is why you'll never hear the end of it, because it is a good
excuse for more NWO socialism..

I am pretty sure that being a witness to a crime is not. in itself, a
crime. Is there any law that makes it a criminal offense to not report a
crime?
I'm pretty sure there's not, but at some point of knowledge there must
be something, because I always used to hear about "accessory to a crime"
and "accessory to the crime after the fact" or something like that.

If you lie to a state prosecutor, in many states if not all, they get
you for some charge. They never even found any real evidence at all that
got Martha Stewart ever did the deed for which they were purportedly
after her for, but what they got her for, after days and days and who
knows how many hours of questioning her, was that one detail was
different between one telling and another about one phone conversation
with a broker.

I think it was Virginia (one of those states suffering from political
pollution), where they were recently trying to pass a law that would
require computer operators and technicians to report anything fishy,
under penalty of criminal law.

Doctors, nurses, and all the people who are professionally involved with
children are required by law to report /any.suspicion.of.possibility/ of
child abuse.

Recently in Florida, (and most states) a social worker is susceptible to
criminal charges if they fail to take a child away from parents and
anything later happens to the child.

(On the other hand, Those social workers are legally immune if they take
the child away on the flimsiest of basis.)

................

Banks are required to report all transactions over ten thousand dollars
to government agencies, whether it is criminal or not, purportedly to
uncover "money laundering".

But they are also required to report _/any/_ suspicious activities by
any customers, and not only that, federal law now requires them to /ask
questions/ of their customers about what they do. Almost all the bank
officers and tellers I deal with are just plain friendly and respond to
decent treatment, but my main problem is that one now may wonder why
someone is a little "too inquisitive".

Sarbaney-Oxley is another case of requirements for corporations to
maintain a store of records and documents that can serve as evidence
against its own officials --and maybe employees-- in case the government
should investigate.

So that's an example of reporting /in case somebody might/ commit a crime.

Yeah I'm sick of hearing about it to. (But I also tired of closing my
ears)

--Alan

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