Let me guess. You were running the old Elke/BPCS EAM package?
Paul Nelson
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[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:15 PM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: iSeries revenue plummets
Try this scenario....
Plant engineers want a preventative maintenance system.
Option A - license and implement green screen based package that is
integrated with existing purchasing system.
Option B - Buy a completely new package that is not integrated.
Engineers prefer Option B.
Why?
Because it is a GUI application.
Ok. What do you need this GUI to do?
Blink. Blink. Tumbleweed passes by. Cricket chirps. Blink. Blink.
I need a GUI....I want to cut and paste.
Ok. You know you can do that with the green screen application?
Blink. Blink. I need a GUI.
Now you can start the whole discussion thread about what apps have good
GUI's and all of that but it kind of misses the main point. This was 5+
years ago and the GUI application wasn't that good. Still isn't. But
they have their GUI......
Michael Crump
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From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM
To: 'Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: iSeries revenue plummets
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The purchasing guy doesn't care
about
the appearance of a piece of information that tells him he needs to
order
1,263 widgets right now or the Jones order will not get shipped this
year.
Paul Nelson
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[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: iSeries revenue plummets
And really, the web programmer *should* be making things look pretty,
and the business rules guy should be writing the code for the MRP
calcs. One of the things on the System i is that we (programmers) do
the business logic and the data access and the presentation. Which we
can do, primarily because the presentation isn't pretty. It's
functional, maybe more functional than a web page, but it's not
pretty.
On Nov 20, 2007 12:32 PM, Mark Allen <scprideandms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Are the programmers really much more expensive than dba's or web
programmers??"
In a lot management/financial types they are, because the perception
is a
System i programmer can ONLY do green screen and you are paying for
OLD
skills.
"Show me a web programmer who can discuss the calculations necessary
for
an
MRP run. I have yet to see one who could produce a balance sheet."
Agreed but again to "those in charge" it's more important to make the
results from that MRP run or balance sheet, look pretty.......
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