>From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com]
>..."upgrade everything now or pay out your ass to do it later" policy...

Actually, it's now simply a pay now or pay later policy. As I read the
policy, you can either purchase a license and then pay them a "subscription
fee" and get later version "free". Or you can purchase a license, NOT pay
them for the subscription and buy another license later. They've done away
with "upgrade" licensing.

If you ask me, this is easier to manage and budget for. I know I'm paying MS
$x per year and I know that will cover upgrading my machines when the new
versions come out. I don't have to worry about when that it, or how much it
will be.

Isn't this the same as IBM's model on the iSeries?

-Walden

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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 14:33
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: access as/400 database files w/Visual Basic 6


When he said licensing, I thought he was referring to the rather precocious
"upgrade everything now or pay out your ass to do it later" policy they have
now.

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: access as/400 database files w/Visual Basic 6


> >From: Booth Martin [mailto:Booth@MartinVT.com]
> >The question that comes to my mind now though is the new Licensing
> Practices from Microsoft.
>
> The new model doesn't affect web servers unless they use Windows based
> authentication. This is from the "New Licensing Model" that MS has put
out:
>
> "Anonymous access by Internet users to Windows 2000 Server-based
> servers does not require a CAL, and is unaffected by the license
> changes."
>
> Anonymous in this context means that you don't use Windows
> Authentication (the popup dialog box) for security. If you use a login
> process where the userid and password is stored in a database of your
> own creation you are using "anonymous access"
>
> So, if you are using 2000 server you'd spend < $1000 for the OS and
> that would include 5 CALs, which you don't really need, but I couldn't
> find pricing for 0 CALs. I guess you actually need a couple of CALs so
> you can connect to the server to put your web pages on it.
>
> The new MS licensing model is close to the software assurance we have
> from IBM.
>
> -Walden
>
> PS. If you are using Windows based authentication there is an option
> to
pay
> $2000 for an unlimited number of users.




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