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I was doing open source before you sold RJS. I'm familiar. All it did for
me was make more work that wasn't fruitful.

This sounds like my younger crypto bro brother wanting to explain block
chain to me while he waits to become a millionaire and asking me for loans
and trying to convince me Dave Ramsey is an idiot.

I say "we" because I consider the community part of my business, even if
they seem to fight back sometimes. They've helped me, I've helped them.



On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 7:34 AM Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I would be happy to explain open-source to you sometime, but you've
already shown that you're not an open-source thinker and that's cool.

Your thousands of customers will be happy with your code.....until they
are not.

By the way, who is "We" ?

Regards,
Richard Schoen
Web: http://www.richardschoen.net
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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message: 2
date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 07:14:26 -0500
from: Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA
removal ?

And again we're full circle... you suggest open source for someone who is
a vendor as something "easier" than built in SSL. Maybe for a couple one
offs, yes, but not for thousands of customers.

I think you're missing my point entirely.

We've had a solution for OAuth 2.0 for Office 365 and Gmail for over 10
years, and only now it's a thing only because MS is forcing it, and Google
is next, which I warned about for years.

"In my real world it's often much easier to bypass RPG for web service
callers, email providers and other integrations."

This statement makes no sense. The language doesn't make a difference.
We're calling the same endpoints. Sounds like word salad to me.

Oh well.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 7:31?PM Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Yep, OAuth and email is the current next big thing.

I'm approaching the new world email stuff by bypassing much of the
built in IBMi system stuff and using open source like PHP and Python
with command wrappers.

In my real world it's often much easier to bypass RPG for web service
callers, email providers and other integrations. Just use CL to
integrate them to RPG and CL as needed.

You don't really to use any of the system SSL store stuff either when
you use the open-source stack. Much easier to configure. And you can
use utilities like curl which are drop-dead simple to integrate to CL
and RPG now.

Although you need to understand and install the open-source packages
which is quite well documented these days and easy to do.

If anyone here is interested in using open-source stack based CL
commands for email and other integrations, reach out and I can educate
you on MobiGoGo Connect.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
Web: http://www.richardschoen.net
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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