Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

Not at all.

My original complaint was having to help support an apache server for my
customers. Then an open source solution was offered. I have no problem
personally with open source. But that would be a much larger can of worms
supporting thousands of customers and needing open source.

I do have open source solutions with a few customers and when it goes down
it's no fun at all. Apache I can tell them to run a simple command, look
at job logs, etc.

So don't assume I'm poo pooing open source. I value my personal time and I
am not going to start teaching and supporting thousands of customers all
over the world how to install and use open source, check if it's running,
run down issues, etc.. etc... especially when most of those
customers expect me to do all that for free. And if you are assuming even
10% of customers wouldn't need that help, well... you'd be wrong.

It's like buying a car and then expecting the salesman to teach you how to
drive, change the oil, read and interpret CELs with an ODB2 scanner, etc.
all for free. I'm not Scotty Kilmer haha!

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 7:08 PM Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

You sound similar to the 5250 programmer saying I'd rather stick with
SEU/SDA because it's what I know :)

The Open-Source stuff adds a small amount of complexity, but you can
automate most of the open-source setup as well these days, so it doesn't
have to be a chore.

And app tools and utilities are SOOOOOOOOOOO much easier to write in a
language other than RPG these days.

Not that RPG is bad, but there are more flavors than just vanilla.

PS: The ILEAstic app server is pretty nice if you want to stick with RPG
stuff, but then again CGI still works as well.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
Web: http://www.richardschoen.net
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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message: 2
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 16:34:39 -0500
from: Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA
removal ?

Let me expand... I'd rather set up an apache server for a customer than
have to rely on them having any open source stuff installed.

For other apps that I've required one, setup just asks "what's your ip and
port you want to use?" and sets up everything for them.

Of course, I often get the email "what do you mean, ip address and port?"

Do I really want to ask "do you have open source and YUM installed?" Not
really. :)

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:31?PM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm familiar.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 3:22?PM Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

If you want to stick with RPG Brad ('cos you know people are going to
tell you to use node/python/...) you might want to look at ILEastic.
Effectively runs its own web server (a la node) so no Apache etc.

needed.

Just a thought.


Jon Paris
Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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