Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

If you want to stick with RPG Brad ('cos you know people are going to tell
you to use node/python/...) you might want to look at ILEastic. Effectively
runs its own web server (a la node) so no Apache etc. needed.

Just a thought.


Jon Paris
Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Jul 29, 2025, at 3:39 PM, Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From an ISV point of view, years ago I wanted to make web interfaces for
most of my tools. Then I realized I would have to also include
instructions on setting up an Apache web server instance, have them

choose

an IP, port, etc.. Then if it ever went down I'd be maintaining that as
well and teaching them how to troubleshoot it, etc. I've done a small
amount of web interfaces where needed, but knowing what I know about most
shops, I decided against web interfaces.

Then with more thought I realized that most of the green screen UIs I

have

are mainly for configuration, not actual production. While some do use
them for production, most of the time the commands are woven into

programs,

interactive and batch, and there's no real interface to worry about.

But down the road I may need to rethink the web interface... I just

don't

want to support an apache server as well. the "new crop" that is

replacing

the seasoned IBMi that are retiring at a large rate don't even know how

to

view or send a job log for support. And most want me to be their

systems

guy when it comes to things like creating the *SYSTEM store, etc...

There, just a little more kerosene for the fire. I thought I saw the

horse

kick a little.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 2:33 PM Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

For us, professionals, with a lot of practice in the green screen, we

find

it great for running system commands, and even seu is very usable tool.
I wrote lots of green screen applications starting with the S/34, until

the

web became more mature.
Since 1997, I have never found any user application that works better in
the green screen than in the web.
All new applications I did for web, and for the ones that had a lot of

use

I did a web version, users choose the web every time, never went back to
the green screen.
I myself, still use the green screen for IBM commands.

El mar, 29 de jul de 2025, 01:48, Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:

Hello Raul,

Am 29.07.2025 um 04:50 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:

Some programmers belive that the green screen is the best.

Also, there are peole that believe the earth is flat...

And there are people who firmly believe that the web browser is always

the

best choice for an UI, without further consideration of the greater

goal

to

be achieved.

:wq! PoC


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