Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

Am 29.07.2025 um 06:38 schrieb Roger Harman <roger.harman@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Those people just frustrate the bejeebers out of me. At my last job, that I retired from, my manager had no problem whatsoever with the fact that I fully embraced free-format. Granted, he said he couldn't follow it well but he loved my productivity.

Try as I might, there were two long-time coders there that never even made an attempt. It killed me to see one of my nicely indented CL's with subroutines butchered by one of them while I was out on an 8-week leave.

On the flip side, I always tried to push off the maintenance of the old stuff onto one of them. <grin>

I told my boss that these folks who were unwilling to learn were just stealing from the company. Getting paid like 30 year experienced employees but really only had 1 year experience repeated 29 more times.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power



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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Dan Bale
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 8:50 AM
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Subject: RE: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

This took me back 25 years ago to a job interview where I was told by the hiring manager absolutely ZERO free-format RPG would be allowed. There was one other programmer who'd been there 15 years or so and knew the system like the back of his hand, so was given the final say. He couldn't be bothered to learn free-format RPG. I probably should have turned down the offer, but I, a contractor, was in a tough spot, as this was just after Y2K and all the IT budgets around here were trimmed severely. I was miserable.

More recently, a programmer at a previous employer refuses, to this day, to use SQL. "It's too dangerous. You never really know what it's going to do." He's an otherwise very smart guy, been there 20 years, so it really baffles me. Fortunately, he'll be retiring in a few months.

- Dan Bale

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Brad Stone
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

I just completed a project where they aren't even using ILE or free format or SQL and "wouldn't allow it" because they don't want to support it.

Next time I'll just say "no" to a project like that.

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