Sorry Roger but I think I didn't explain myself well, English is not my
first language.
I don't consider myself a modern programmer, at least not by choice but
certainly by necessity. What I'm trying to kindly say is that this kind of
discussion on a site like Midrange does nothing but confirm what many say
about the platform. Old and resistant to any form of modernization.

Best regards
--
Marco Facchinetti

Mr S.r.l.

Tel. 035 962885
Cel. 393 9620498

Skype: facchinettimarco


Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 23:27 Roger Harman <
roger.harman@xxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:

I think the fact that everyone here is passionate about the platform and
interested in growing their skills sometimes presents a skewed view of the
ecosystem.

For every Rob and Marco, who are fortunate to work for companies that
embrace cutting edge, see IT as a strategic asset, and are willing to
enhance their apps to move to GUI, there are hundreds (thousands?) that see
the IT group as a "utility" that is there strictly to keep the lights on.

Simply telling everyone to move off green screen and jump into a browser
interface is not going to make it happen for the majority - either from a
budget/manpower aspect or a corporate philosophy - which are intrinsically
intertwined.

As dedicated developers, I am certain we'd all like to be out there on the
latest release and developing the most modern and useful interfaces for our
customers (I always looked at the users as customers that I provided a
product to). I know I would have loved to move towards a better interface
for our apps before I retired. Reality, however, sometimes has different
plans. So, I did what I could to be "modern" behind the scenes and I feel
that benefitted the users as well. Yes, the users don't "see" that and you
may not get the accolades but, sometimes, the reward comes from within.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power



-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Marco Facchinetti
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 12:12 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Costco still on IBM i?

I know.

But we spent an huge amount of time and money to escape from the green
screen stigma and I get hives when I read these threads.

Best regards
--
Marco Facchinetti

Mr S.r.l.

Tel. 035 962885
Cel. 393 9620498

Skype: facchinettimarco


Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 19:15 Rob Berendt <
robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:

Marco,
I agree that this is one of those threads that I wish would fade away.
And
it's to the point IDC about the argument Green or GUI? 99.999% of the
people won't change their minds one way or another.

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:21 PM Marco Facchinetti <
marco.facchinetti@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I can't believe you people are still talking about 5250.

Please, let it fade away.

Best regards
--
Marco Facchinetti


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