Am 12.05.2025 um 21:46 schrieb K Crawford <kscx3ksc@xxxxxxxxx>:

But do you think that things/discussions like this are what give our system the reputation for being a 'legacy platform' , ' an outdated technology from the 1980s that somehow still exists'.

The "legacy platform" discussion again.

First, the term "legacy" is fairly flexible marketing language. AFAIK there isn't even a generally definition of "legacy", and some even say, that every piece of software, that goes into production is becoming a "legacy" in this very moment.

When we look at other platforms - like e.g. Linux - nobody is seeing an CUI application like Bash, VI, Midnight Commander or EMACS as a legacy - they are "power user" features.

Marianne Bellotti describes the psychology behind seeing an application or system "legacy" quite good in her book Kill It With Fire. Facts are not the drivers - emotions, feelings - especially the fear of complexity, fear of the unknown - are the drivers.

They see a large codebase - written in a language that they don't know - running on a platform they don't know - they don't understand what it is doing and they even haven't understood the business processes that are served - but the first idea, that comes to mind is: it's easier to rewrite that whole mess from scratch!

This is simply insane - Dunning-Kruger in full steam ahead mode - and everyone knows, that those efforts are failing in 99.9% of all cases - but still "it's legacy, we have to replace it!".

I hope, that we (the IBM i community) we be able to do the same, as the Mainframers - for 30 years Mainframes were legacy - now they are cool again - maybe we will be able to make the same turn someday.

But for this to happen, first we have to correct our own mind set.

Just my 2ct.

Regards,
Daniel


On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 2:33 PM mlazarus <mlazarus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was wondering the same thing myself - why can't they just leave it
there, unsupported?
On 5/12/2025 3:22 PM, Brad Stone wrote:
I still have my V7R4 Power 8 system. Good idea. I won't break out the
thermite just yet. ;)
I don't see why they just can't leave it there and just not support it.
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 2:17 PM Patrik Schindler<poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Brad,
Am 12.05.2025 um 16:20 schrieb Brad Stone<bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>:
They're literally removing SDA? Wow.... how will people support
legacy
apps?
Maybe get an older machine with an older release for such cases?
:wq! PoC
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