Re: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

Maybe the apology belongs to me. Basically look at those EOS links and see
if your machine is on it.

On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 9:21 AM Greg Wilburn <
gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rob,

Sorry, I thought the discussion was about the 41G. I have the same model
as Gordon (9009-41G). However, IBM is giving conflicting information to
some of the Business Partners (telling mine that the 41G was included in
the EOSS)

Greg

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Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 9:13 AM
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Subject: Re: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

Greg,
I thing Jim was replying to a gent about a different Power 9. Some of the
G models are not going EOS quite yet.

There was a different announcement about EOS and Power 9 earlier. It was
rather hidden in a pdf file on a link. ITJungle pays tribute to it. Sept
12, 2024 was this announcement
https://public.dhe.ibm.com/systems/support/planning/notices/September.12.2024.Announcement.Power9.pdf
However IT Jungle paid no mention at the time. I uncovered it in a
discussion, and asked the author for the link, at
https://techchannel.com/power11/preparing-for-power11/?utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_si63QSxk0lnA8bbgcG_yVrzvKrJog-vJjOpoeSVf8yqJ25LePV0WIIb6MYakDJ03yreXUyy1zk_uhmvfDF8J3B28WfQ&_hsmi=342422798&utm_content=341979461&utm_source=hs_email

On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:51 AM Greg Wilburn <
gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim, I hope you're right. But IBM reached out yesterday to schedule a
call with me about the upcoming "changes". Pretty sure they've not
done that before.

Unfortunately, we were "off the grid" yesterday with a 1/2" of ice
that took out power and internet to the entire area. Felt like 1995

again.

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Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 11:42 AM
To: Gordon Searles <gsearle@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

So the end of "normal" support is nearly a year out. And that is just
the hardware assuming a supported version of IBM i.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:35 AM Gordon Searles <gsearle@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jim,



I agree with what you are saying. The 42G which I was referring to
has been withdrawn from Marketing. As I understand it the 42A EOSS
End of Standard Support and a company can pay for extended support
after January 2026. Just waiting to see what the EOSS is for 42G.



Gordon



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*Subject:* Re: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.



When IBM announces the end of service, be careful. Is that the end
of Marketing where they just won't sell it anymore, and then there
is over a year to update, or is it the actual end of support without
an extended agreement. In the past

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When IBM announces the end of service, be careful. Is that the end
of Marketing where they just won't sell it anymore, and then there
is over a year to update, or is it the actual end of support without
an extended agreement. In the past IBM has maintained support for
the current model and one back, with a year's notice.



I've not read any of the announcements but a careful read of them is
likely in order. Cutting off P9 hardware support without ample
warning is not IBMs way.



--

Jim Oberholtzer

Chief Technical Architect

Agile Technology Architects





On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:18 AM Gordon Searles via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am hearing similar from my IBM BP. Most likely IBM will announce
the EOS for the 42G when the Power11 becomes available. I agree
that it doesn’t make sense to buy a Power 10 when the Power 11 will
be available soon.

Gordon

-----Original Message-----
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Of Greg Wilburn
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 6:56 AM
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Subject: RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

Well it's kind of stupid to force people to upgrade to a power10
when the
power11 is right around the corner...

I am NOT buying a power10 just to have it EOS in a couple years.

-----Original Message-----
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Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:37 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
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Subject: Re: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

IBM iNext will not run on a Power 9. I know that I advocate going
to new releases quickly and some of you are slower. But you may
change your mind on slow adoption. If IBM sticks to their usual
pattern we'll all find out in 2-3 months.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:57 AM Greg Wilburn <
gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Gordon... my IBM BP went back to IBM and asked again (he was
getting conflicting messages). He came back late yesterday to
confirm that the 41G is NOT included in the withdrawal of support.

We are going to upgrade to the Power11 hopefully in 2026 (if it is
available) - just not in January.

-----Original Message-----
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Of Gordon Searles via MIDRANGE-L
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 5:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Gordon Searles <gsearle@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

Thanks Rob this is helpful.
We have a S914 9009-41G and a S924 9009-42G. When I go to the
link it has
S914 9009-41A and S924 9009-42A with EOSS 01-31-2026. When I
click on the IBM Product Lifecycle page and search for 9009, I see
the 41A and 42A with the January 2026 date, however the 41G and
42G do not have an

EOSS date.

Is it reasonable to conclude that IBM doesn't have an EOSS date
for them and it potentially may be later the January 2026? The
41G and 42G were GA over 2 years after the 41A & 42A.

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks,

Gordon Searles



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Subject: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

Although it was out there, if you knew where to look, IBM just
published the traditional EOS for Power 9 products.

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