Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i? -- MIDRANGE-L

If it's not an "eyes only" type of printout is this really a problem?
The executive suite has their own printer.
HR suite has their own printer.
However the main office area holding engineering, customer service, IT,
accounting, etc has three printers. Generally, it's not an issue here.
Two of the three do a bulk and I'm betting we only have the third since it
came from office consolidation. I would find having to walk to the printer
to "start now" and wait on the printout more of a pain. Granted, I do very
little printing. Maybe one a week? But once a quarter I generate a few
tree killers.
Then again, I generally tell those to staple.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 1:41 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks to you all for your input thus far.

Vernon, your idea was something akin to what I was thinking along the
lines of. Sending the print job to a CUPS (common unix printing system)
Server that is connected to each of the printers, having the needed printer
drivers living on that CUPS server and having the CUPS act as a user with a
specific code, this could be printer specific but most of these jobs aren't
'for their eyes only' so even a generic code would work.

Need to pass your idea and mine over to the Network team to see if it's
possible or I'm just blowing smoke.

Ken

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Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i?

We have a similar setup to yours, Charles - we have Konica-Minlota BizHubs
in departments - at least, we have 4 of them on this floor. No local
printers on anyone's desk at all now. And we do what you do.

Now it's been awhile, but I believe it is possible to map an IBM i user
profile as an alias in Active Directory. A print device on the i would
point to some IP address on the network for the managed printing, so things
queue up. And the alias makes the IBM i stuff come up under your Windows
user.

Of course, there's work to be done to set it up. Probably not much in the
way of device descriptions, though, necessarily.

We don't have much actual printing done now - we use Robot Reports for
users, which converts things to PDF or ??? and puts them on a network file
share or some such.

We've not yet given users the ability to use the Printer Output action of
ACS - I believe there are ways to limit what people can do with that, so
maybe that's an option.

HTH
Vern

On Tue, 30 Jul, 2024 at 3:12 PM, Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

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Probably going to depend on _how_ this is being accomplished for your
Windows printing.

It seems likely to be some combination of the printer hardware and some
software package.

For instance, I don't see our network attached printers in Windows. All I
see is "My Company Secure Print" as a printer.

After printing to that, I can walk to a printer, swipe my badge and get my
printout.

I'd suspect that in order for your IBM i to participate, you're going to
- have to be using SSO/Kerberos, so that there's a single "user"
- possibly have to redefine the printers on your IBM i. (and use SNMP or
IPP as a protocol)

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

HTH,
Charles

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:20 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:

All,

Like a lot of companies we are looking at minimizing the number of
printers we have, but one of our concerns is that print jobs will pile
up at the printer.
I know that I can set up a driver configuration on my local Windows
machine to do a HOLD at the printer and I enter a code at the printer
to get my jobs when I'm ready for them.
In fact that is what we plan on doing for all users as we set up their
local machines and primary printers.
We'd like to replicate this same thing for jobs that come from our i,
is this even possible?

Thanks,
Ken

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