Re: Adios SDA, DFU, RLU, etc -- MIDRANGE-L

Ah, Jeff, you might have me - I don't think the Screen Designer can do menus.

Sigh!
Vern

On Tue, 4 Jun, 2024 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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RDi can do green screen menus like SDA?

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:16 PM VERNON HAMBERG Owner via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

PDM is not going away. SEU is also not in the list. This statement means
that if you don't already have SDA, it won't be something you can order on
a 7.>5 system. So far, no big deal, if you already have it.

RDi can definitely do green screens (using its Screen Designer) and PRTFs
(using its Report Designer) very well, and there are tutorials for both out
there - some even bundled in RDi, I believe. I even have a layout in RDi
that has the Properties view, which then shows automagically the parameters
for each field in a screen when you click on the field.

Jim said it well - nothing is being actually removed from a system, only
new features and support.

HTH
Vern

On Tue, 4 Jun, 2024 at 10:13 AM, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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This page:

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/planning-upgrade-ibm-i-75-software

says:

"IBM i 7.5 will be the last release that will deliver the following
functions from the IBM i portfolio:"

Listed (among others) is "Rational Development Studio for i (5770-WDS)
option 21" which has SDA, DFU, etc. Does this mean STRPDM and SEU go away
too? I only use SEU to view source members once in a great while, but I
use STRPDM a lot.

Replacement suggestions says "There are several options for replacement,
including Rational Developer for i, Code for i, and others." RDi can do
green screen menus like SDA?

We cannot be the only business that does green screen menus and apps.
There has to be thousands and thousands of shops.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 10:35 AM VERNON HAMBERG Owner via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
wrote:

There is so much FUD around this, understandably - the announcement says
that there will no longer be support. It also says several items will be
withdrawn from marketing. I admit that the terminology is not completely
clear to me, either.

Nothing is said at this time about removing anything from the system. I
can maybe see a scenario where you get a new machine, and you would have

to

restore these from a save on the older side. We have no statement from

IBM

on that kind of thing.

We are kind of the blind leading the blind on the future, eh? :)

Regards
Vern

On Tue, 4 Jun, 2024 at 8:08 AM, Gavin Inman <midrangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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If its not shipped in IBM i next, what is the possible outcomes of the
utilities? Would the release leave it or remove it?

3/2024 2:35 PM, Jim Oberholtzer wrote:

They won't ship it in IBMi next in all likelihood

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