Re: FTP question

Yeah, I had seen the newer one as well with the old way.

Doesn't really matter to me anymore - I just enjoy trying to keep up and chiming in if I can add something relevant to the conversation.
Still have my PUB400 account if I want to fiddle around.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power



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Subject: Re: FTP question

Just a bit more - the documentation in even the most recent FTP manual
isn't at all clear on this process (not precreating SAVF), there are
hints, though.

Cheers
Vern

On 6/4/2023 12:23 AM, Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

Hi Roger

Yes, that changed quite awhile ago - you don't need to pre-create the
SAVF anymore - and it works also with existing SAVFs just fine.

Here's an IBM page on this -
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/getting-savf-your-desktop-ibm-i-system
- it is dated December, 2019

Interesting that IBM has a similar article for IBM i to IBM i dated
October, 2021, and it uses the older method - but it would not have
needed to -
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/transferring-savf-one-ibm-i-another-ibm-i-using-ftp

Then there is this link - http://www.midrangenews.com/view?id=1217 -
by Bob Cozzi, from 2011. This includes this paragraph -

If the PC file name ends with .FILE you may optionally rename it to
xxxx.SAVF (for example: COZTOOLSRT.FILE to COZTOOLSRT.SAVF). Having
the .SAVF extension tells the IBM i system to create a save file on
the target. If a file extension of .FILE is detected, a regular
database file is created and that will not be useful to the RSTOBJ or
RSTLIB commands.

This is followed by a statement that it works as you described

If however, a save file already exists on your IBM i system with the
same base name, the system also recognizes that you are transferring
a save file and behaves as you would expect

I like to save typing path names, so for transferring between IBM i
LPARs, I first cd and lcd in namefmt 0, then go to namefmt 1 so that I
can use the .savf extension.

Cheers
Vern

On 6/3/2023 8:42 PM, Roger Harman wrote:

Has something changed?

My recollection is you had to create an empty SAVF on the target and
do a put <whatever> (repl.


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Subject: Re: FTP question

Hi Patrik

I find I use FTP mostly for moving SAVFs around, either uploading to the
i, but more moving objects from LPAR to LPAR. For that, you use bin
instead of ascii transfer type, and you specify nam 1 - then I usually
do cd and lcd (actually first, when it is nam 0, because there is less
to type!) Then to transfer the SAVF, you use put filename.savf - if you
don't, if you use something like filename.file, it creates a PF on
the i.

Neat trick, very handy extension for IBM i FTP only.

Cheers
Vern

On 6/3/2023 3:25 AM, Patrik Schindler wrote:

Hello Jim,

Am 03.06.2023 um 01:04 schrieb Jim
Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

The default directory name convention is set by the FTP server.
It can easily be set to default to namefmt 1 (as I do on my
systems) or namefmt 0 which is the IBM default.

Personally, I stick with the default. I rarely use the IFS, and FTP
is most often a manual process, not automated. Using namefmt 1 needs
much more typing.

Best to pick which one you want and set it when the session starts.

In addition, the FTP server automatically changes namefmt to 1 for a
given session if you issue any request to a remote path starting
with a /.

By issuing the command you then make sure both the server and
client are using the same naming convention.

The client isn't aware about any naming format. This is a sole IBM i
server side thing.

I sometimes use mget/mput even with namefmt 0. This works expectably
if you have a local subdirectory named like the library on the
server side. You end up with FILE.MEMBER files on the local side.

Lots of fun when the two are different.

Not at all. The user must be aware of the differences. Many
"problems" are omitted when you always use local and remote file
names accordingly, not just "directories", letting the FTP client
fill out the file name.

:wq! PoC

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