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Most likely a combination of free key and PTF. In the end do we care?
Just let us know the method for obtaining the license and move in. I
think this is exciting news in that it puts DB2 way beyond anything MS has.
Now to convince the OEM software crowd and senior executives.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 7:08 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How could they change from a charged feature to a no charge feature in the
same release?
- Come out with the same product but a different feature number? If so,
would you have to delete and reinstall?
- Give you a free license key?
- PTF the product, or ptf the license key checker, to stop flagging
licensing?

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I'm not sure it's directly tied in with 7.5 or just a synchronized
announcement. Below it says it's for any release of V7.

https://db2ibmi.blogspot.com/2022/05/whats-new-with-db2-for-i-75.html

<snip>
Db2 Multisystem is now a no charge feature instead of the chargeable
feature. The no charge licensing change also applies to Db2 SMP and the
High Availability Journal Performance features: journal caching and journal
standby. It's on my to-do list to my update my recent Db2 Add-Ons entry to
highlight that these four features as of June 1, 2022 are
no longer chargeable for the IBM i 7.x releases (7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 and
7.5).
Just because Db2 SMP & Db2 Multisystem are simpler to obtain, does not
mean that you should rush out to use them. These two features work best
when careful planning and preparation are part of the deployment process
and our Lab Services team has the expertise to assist in that process.
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Thanks guys

Yeah, I'm having a hard time making heads and tails of it myself.

Guess I'll have to wait for 7.5 and actually test it myself.

Gad



date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:46:15 +0000
from: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Table partitioning in 7.5

It is rather confusing.
You can read it here:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/i/7.5?topic=availability-maximum-capacities

Maximum number of tables referenced in an SQL statement 1000(8)
8 The maximum number of members (and partitions) referenced is also 1000.
In DELETE and UPDATE statements the maximum number is 256. In a complex
SQL
statement, the number of tables that can be referenced may be limited by
internal structures.

Number of members that can be joined 256 members

Maximum number of members in a physical or logical file 32 767

I've not used this function yet.

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Hello sages

Having read that MultiSystem is a no-charge option in 7.5 I would very
much
like to test table partitioning and hopefully use it.
Rational:
We heavily use Multi-Member-transaction-Files, Physical & Logical
(several
hundreds files)
Some such files have hundreds MBRs and a few over a thousand.
These files are managed by ADDPFM / ADDLFM / OVRDBF and such.
This is nice and dandy for day to day operations but makes for a
difficult
task querying
and analyzing historical data.
So we regularly copy those files to a Single-MBR DataWarehouse-like files
adding the Member Name as a field (and a key) and use those DWH files for
historical analysis.

Several questions come to (my) mind when considering replacing it with
table partitioning:

1. How many partitions are allowed in a partitioned table or index?
2. After a partitioned table is created, can one use
ADDPFM/RMVM/CLRPFM/ADDLFM on it ?
(I've read that OVRDBF works with it)
3. Is there a performance penalty that comes with partitioned tables ?

All answers will be thankfully received.
Gad
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date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 15:10:24 -0400
from: smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx
subject: RE: Table partitioning in 7.5

From everything that I have found (and I am still totally confused by
this),
table partitioning seems to be more about busting up the storage of a
single
member into multiple members based on a field in the table as opposed to
having multiple standalone members in a PF. This seem more like a bunch
of
LFs with select clauses.

From the doc at
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ssw_ibm_i_73/pdf/rzaf3pdf.pdf,


From page 1

There are two methods for partitioning data:
1. Partitioned tables - The data for a table is spread across multiple
members within a single physical file
on a single IBM i instance. This is the recommended method for physical
partitioning of data in a table.
2. Distributed files (distributed tables) - The data for a table is
spread
across multiple IBM i instances.
This option is no longer recommended for use.

And from page 22

Or, to partition PAYROLL by range, use the following code:
CREATE TABLE PRODLIB.PAYROLL
(EMPNUM INT,
FIRSTNAME CHAR(15),
LASTNAME CHAR(15),
SALARY INT)
PARTITION BY RANGE(EMPNUM)
(STARTING FROM (MINVALUE) ENDING AT (500) INCLUSIVE,
STARTING FROM (501) ENDING AT (1000) INCLUSIVE,
STARTING FROM (1001) ENDING AT (MAXVALUE))

This statement results in a table that contains three partitions. The
first
partition contains all rows where
EMPNUM is less than or equal to 500. The second partition contains all
rows
where EMPNUM is between
501 and 1000 inclusive. The third partition contains all rows where
EMPNUM
is greater than or equal to
1001.

Someone please correct me and include a link to some good IBM i
documentation on this.

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Subject: Table partitioning in 7.5

Hello sages

Having read that MultiSystem is a no-charge option in 7.5 I would very
much
like to test table partitioning and hopefully use it.
Rational:
We heavily use Multi-Member-transaction-Files, Physical & Logical
(several
hundreds files) Some such files have hundreds MBRs and a few over a
thousand.
These files are managed by ADDPFM / ADDLFM / OVRDBF and such.
This is nice and dandy for day to day operations but makes for a
difficult
task querying and analyzing historical data.
So we regularly copy those files to a Single-MBR DataWarehouse-like files
adding the Member Name as a field (and a key) and use those DWH files for
historical analysis.

Several questions come to (my) mind when considering replacing it with
table
partitioning:

1. How many partitions are allowed in a partitioned table or index?
2. After a partitioned table is created, can one use
ADDPFM/RMVM/CLRPFM/ADDLFM on it ?
(I've read that OVRDBF works with it) 3. Is there a performance
penalty
that comes with partitioned tables ?

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