Re: CL/REXX Was: valid 5250 character set

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The key there, Jon is EASY.  While several of you consider any API to be
easy, many of them are just plain confusing, with variables in different
formats, variable fields, etc. etc..

The other thing is I don't create end user software very often, 90% of the
software I write is to manage the system, oftentimes integrating with the
HMC, SAN, and other things.  So while I understand your viewpoint, what I
need is to be able to use the SQL services that are provided EASILY, within
CL.  Open source products allow for most of that but it does not integrate
with CL for crap, so then we go out and create Rube Goldberg type
interfaces to try and make it work.  So 3/4ths of the problem is solved,
just not the real one.

In the meantime, using Carsten Fleming's examples, I've started using user
spaces for that type of communication.  That's still a long way off from
being able to read a cursor in CL.  RPG is the other, maybe better, option,
but then it's tough to put an RPG program on an HMC, and calling Open
Source from RPG is equally daunting for most of us.....

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 11:17 AM Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I don't particularly want to see a CL oriented solution myself Jack.
>
> If IBM just give us a simple bindable API then we can easily wrap it
> ourselves for any language.
>
>
> Jon P.
>
> > On Jun 1, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Jack Woehr via MIDRANGE-L <
> midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 10:06 AM Jim Oberholtzer <
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Some better integration from CL to calling Open Source objects might be
> in
> > > order therefore eliminating the problem all together.  Yea, I know folks
> > > have built wrappers and such, some cost money, others don't but that's
> not
> > > IBM support.
> >
> >
> > Here I agree, Jim. The ability to return from a Python script directly
> into
> > the calling CL's variables would be nice.
> > Richard Schoen's QshOni <https://github.com/richardschoen/QShOni> and ad
> > hoc scripts that I've written handle this, but as you say, WIBNI IBM
> > offered a solid vector for this sort of thing in CL itself.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *JACK WOEHR, IBM Champion 2021-2022
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> >
> > *SENIOR IBM i ENGINEER*