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If I remember it correctly, you could only order those tapes from IBM. That said, I also remember doing “21” restore without the MULIC tape as well. I think it was only needed when the load source drive was replaced. So, you are right on with your concerns.

I do not believe there was a way to create one from the system. DST was not nearly as functional then as it is now.

Jim Oberholtzer
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On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Been so long since I've been on that old of a release that I wouldn't want to lead you astray with any comments so I'm ducking out.

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Hello Rob,

Am 25.01.2022 um 13:14 schrieb Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>:

What's the end game here? Are you trying to do a save, replace the load source, and restore the system?

Yes, and no. My primary goal is to reinstall the OS and PTFs from unspoiled copies, to have the OS reset to a known clean state.

Known unknowns are:
- Which installation options of a D-Type IPL should I omit to *not* run into a "please insert FULIC tape" situation?
- Does a Save 21 generate an IPLable tape with FULIC present? Example case: I need to replace the load source, because it became defective? I have heard that the P0x weren't sold with any install media, but then, a broken disk would essentially brick the machine?

I did create an image from the sole disk (one ASP, one disk) on Linux, via the SCSI-Generic API, so in theory I have a disaster backup. Writing back to another IBM blessed 6606 disk did not yet succeed: There are probably more SCSI parameters to be set. Did not yet take the time to look at this in detail.

Finding a way to copy the FULIC part from disk to tape so it's a "good" FULIC tape for a scratch install on a new disk would be most helpful, also for other hobbyists facing similar issues. Or worse, already have nice black doorstoppers to revive.

:wq! PoC

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