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Thanks for your reply Charles
That's scary as we use Implementer to promote into production

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It didn't.

Whoever recreated the *SRVPGM used export(*ALL) instead of using the binder
source, which resulted in a generated signature.

Charles

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Thanks Rob
Apart from the one program in my library - they match
My question is - why did the signature change?
I inserted one line of code in the service program
I didn't think that would have changed the signature

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The signature on this:
DSPPGM PGM(ROUTINES/CHGEML) DETAIL(*SRVPGM)
should match one of the signatures on this:
DSPSRVPGM SRVPGM(ROUTINES/SRVPGM) DETAIL(*SIGNATURE)


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Thanks for your reply Rob
We have the following
...+... 1 ...+... 2 ...+... 3 ...+... 4 ...+... 5 ...+... 6 ...+... 7 ...+.
*************** Beginning of data
******************************************
STRPGMEXP PGMLVL(*CURRENT) SIGNATURE('CRWDTWSTSP')
/********************************************************************/
/* *MODULE USPSSP AXSLIB 01/10/19 16:00:00 */
/********************************************************************/
EXPORT SYMBOL("GETCTUSERPROFILEBYID")
EXPORT SYMBOL("GETCTFULFILL")
EXPORT SYMBOL("GETCTCANCELFULFILL")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CTREISSUEREWARD")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CTPURCHASEDTLS")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CTREISSUEPOINTS")
ENDPGMEXP

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In binder language there are maybe a total of four commands. You can
actually support multiple signatures. Each signature is on the STRPGMEXP
command. This helps to avoid signature violations

Here is a sample
STRPGMEXP PGMLVL(*CURRENT) LVLCHK(*YES) SIGNATURE('V20211001')
EXPORT SYMBOL("ADDDAYS")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CENTER40")
...
ENDPGMEXP
STRPGMEXP PGMLVL(*PRV) LVLCHK(*YES) SIGNATURE('V20210825')
EXPORT SYMBOL("ADDDAYS")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CENTER40")
...
ENDPGMEXP
STRPGMEXP PGMLVL(*PRV) LVLCHK(*YES) SIGNATURE('V20200704')
EXPORT SYMBOL("ADDDAYS")
EXPORT SYMBOL("CENTER40")
...
ENDPGMEXP

I could have given you a more 'live' example but programmers following me
decided not to use multiple signatures and trashed it all and just
recompile everything. If they are using service programs at all.
If this
DSPSRVPGM SRVPGM(ROUTINES/SRVPGM) DETAIL(*SIGNATURE)
Looks like this garbage
A5AE6D8F472C4062A3B65BB050DA6E4A
4A5AE6D8F472C409BC1E294E76E16998
Then either they aren't using binder language, or they just use
SIGNATURE(*GEN) instead of assigning a signature.


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Thanks John - but what do you mean by "garbage"

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My best guess is that the binder language wasn't used when the programs
were created. You can easily check this by resurrecting one of the ones you
just recompiled and viewing the signature. If it is just "garbage" then
that is almost certainly the answer.


Jon Paris

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Hi everyone
We are on V7r3
We have a service program that has 6 procedures
Last Friday, I had to make a change to one of the procedures - and that
change was to insert one line of code into one procedure
Just to populate a field
Now - every program that uses those 6 procedures had a Program signature
violation - MCH4431
As this is a relatively new service program - that number of programs
involved is relatively small
So I just recompiled them - yes - I know I could have used UPDPGM
They are now working as expected
The binding program specifies a signature as well as the 6 procedures -
in order
I am scratching my head as to why a signature violation happened
Any one any ideas as to what I can look at?

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