Re: RPGLE source date & time in *PGM object -- MIDRANGE-L

Peter,

Something seems amiss ... perhaps someone did something outside of Implementer? :-/

You may want to open an incident or ticket etc. with PTC Implementer support to see if they can assist.

All the best,

Mark S. Waterbury

On Monday, June 28, 2021, 08:27:18 PM EDT, Peter Dow <petercdow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I did use Implementer's job log inquiry, and it shows it using CRTBNDRPG.

I did find a source member with matching date & time on a different
system. But even if it were restored from that system, the WRKOBJ
doesn't show a restored date, and it doesn't explain why the debug list
view shows source from almost a year later.

My understanding is that the ILE Listing View in debug is part of the
*PGM object, added when it was compiled.

On 6/28/2021 5:16 PM, David Gibbs via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

It’s been more than a year, but I’m pretty sure Implementer doesn’t use
updpgm or updsrvpgm.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:27 PM Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The source dates don't change if UPDPGM / UPDSRVPGM are used to update a
module in a *PGM or *SRVPGM.

Charles

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:11 PM Peter Dow <petercdow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've depended on a *PGM object's source changed date & time for decades,
especially on systems where customers have not done too well with
keeping track of their source vs object.

Today I came across this:

WRKOBJ PSIWBAPL/PCK222S option 8
================================

Display Object Description - Full
Library 1 of 1
Object . . . . . . . : PCK222S Attribute . . . . . : RPGLE
Library . . . . . : PSIWBAPL Owner . . . . . . . : QDFTOWN
Library ASP device . : *SYSBAS Library ASP group . : *SYSBAS
Type . . . . . . . . : *PGM Primary group . . . : *NONE

User-defined information:
Attribute . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : RPG : PackList Document
Type select
on
Creation information:
Creation date/time . . . . . . . . . : 05/07/21 07:24:06
Created by user . . . . . . . . . . : MWIPROD
System created on . . . . . . . . . : VISTAPRD
Object domain . . . . . . . . . . . : *USER

DSPPGM PSIWBAPL/PCK222S *MODULE shows
=====================================

Display Program Information

Program . . . . . . . : PCK222S Library . . . . . . . :
PSIWBAPL

Module attributes:
Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : PCK222S
Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : QTEMP
Source file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : QRPGSRC
Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MODWBSRC
Source member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : PCK222S
Module attribute . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : RPGLE
Module creation date/time . . . . . . . . . . : 05/05/21 10:21:59
Source file change date/time . . . . . . . . . : 05/28/20 14:35:31
Coded character set identifier . . . . . . . . : 37
Creation data . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *YES
Allow RTVCLSRC (CL module) . . . . . . . . . . : *NO
Sort sequence table . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *HEX
Language identifier . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *JOBRUN
Optimization level . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *NONE

Note the module creation and source changed dates & times.

STRDBG PSIWBAPL/PCK222S F15 - ILE RPG Listing View
==================================================

Display Module
Source

Program: PCK222S Library: PSIWBAPL Module: PCK222S
19 001800 -* 04/21/2021 P.Dow IT-63684 23732 210421
20 001900 * Added Acom form parameter. 210421
21 002000 * 210421
22 002100

***************************************************************************

000000
23 002200 fOBCOL100 if e k disk 160125

Note the change date on the 3 source lines: 210421 (2021-04-21).

Here's the timeline I've been able to piece together:

1. 04/21/2021: The program was compiled in an Implementer development
environment.

2. 05/04/2021: Using Implementer, it was promoted to a QA environment.

3. 05/07/2021: Using Implementer, it was promoted from QA to production
and distributed to a remote system.

However, the dates still don't make sense. Implementer says the QA
promotion happened on 05/04/2021, but the module creation date is
05/05/2021. And the program creation date is 05/07/2021. And the source
change date is 05/28/2020, yet debug's listing view shows comments from
04/21/2021.

How could this happen?

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