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also i'm not convinced it works until it tests via postman/ARC... and a
certificate alone is not enough to provide to those tools.
sorry i have to see it work to believe it works... handing a generated cert
from PASE to my consumer doesn't really leave me with that warm fuzzy. :)
but thanks!

jay

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:01 PM Jay Vaughn <jeffersonvaughn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

its in the link i sent - thanks Jack - i got it from here.

jay

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:51 PM Jack Woehr <
jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You do not hand over the key for the server-side cert.

You hand over the cert and keep the key private and secret.

The cert is all your client needs to validate your server.

How your server authorizes the client is another ball of wax.

So far nothing you have discussed involves you exporting your key.

Just grab a text copy of the cert from openssl and that's all your client
needs.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:40 PM Jay Vaughn <jeffersonvaughn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

thanks Jack,

so i'm proceeding with my original approach when I asked my question
earlier...
From the IBM DCM, I can produce a server side certificate and from my
understanding also a pub/prv key pair.
The trick is extracting and separating the cert/key.
I'm following the link below.
With the cert and key file in hand, i can test via postman/ARC and then
hand those 2 items to any 3rd party outside my intranet to make api
calls.

if anyone is familiar with the below link/process, assistance would be
appreciated if you can.
My current version of the key store is not the same as in the link
tutorial
so that is throwing me off.



https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/how-export-certificate-digital-certificate-manager-dcm-key-store-ibm-key-management-ikeyman


jay

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:34 PM Jack Woehr <
jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:28 AM Jay Vaughn <
jeffersonvaughn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Thanks Jack but the certificate extraction method you walked me
through
earlier, is that not a level of security authentication?


Not really. It allows a client to believe your server.

"Real" https requires the cert that your server presents to be
authenticated thru a chain of Certificate Authorities (CAs).

You have a self-signed cert, so you have to provide it through another
channel (e.g., email) to your clients so they can add it to their
trust
store manually, since it can't be verified through well-know CAs.

Anyone else would just have to trust the cert. Their session would be
encrypted, sure, but with whom? No way to know automatically when a
client
is handed a self-signed cert.

As for THE CLIENT proving itself to THE SERVER (authorization) that's
a
whole 'nother ball of wax.

There are such things as client certs. DCIM supports them as far as
storing
certs for IBM i apps to present when they themselves are a client to
some
server somewhere.

Authorization by means of client certs incoming to IBM i has to be
handled
by the app itself. Perhaps WAS has some support for that, etc.

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