New users know how to use the web, to go to 5250 they need to be
re-trained.  I do use 5250, but I do not push it to my users.

Moving to web you can improve user's experience more, you have all the
nice toys from 5250 and more, find for example. 

I am afraid to predict the future, but I think there are going to have
far more improvements in the web than in 5250. 

5250 is far from dead, but it is frozen.

El 2/1/20 a las 21:40, Nathan Andelin escribió:
When you advocate for 5250, you're advocating for a terminal emulator on
the client and "interactive" sessions on the server. In most cases you're
advocating for SEU and PDM (or their RDI equivalents). You're generally
advocating for RPG as a language. I'd bet that in most cases, the 5250
advocates have NOT seriously explored alternatives. Therefore, they don't
know how to create and deploy alternatives to 5250.

Have you learned HTML, CSS, and JavaScript? Do you understand a browser's
DOM (document object model), and do you know how to reference it from
JavaScript? Do you know how to configure the IBM i HTTP server? Have you
explored HTTP options for managing user authentication, authorization,
access to menu items, and sessions?

Whatever language environment, application architecture, run-time framework
you have settled on, is the one you advocate for. Notwithstanding its
weakness and pitfalls.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:25 PM Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We do not disagree. It isn't useful to "push" any single Messianic
solution on to users. On the other hand, 5250 is certainly a viable
choice, one of many. Saying 5250 is dead serves no purpose. It's here.
it's been here, and it's going to continue to be here for a long time
to come.

It's one of our tools. Refusing to learn and use the enhancements
speaks ill of our professionalism. We have sortable subfiles.
first-rate filtering, push buttons, scroll bars, drop down boxes, check
boxes, and radio buttons. They work, users understand them, and they
improve the 5250 user experience significantly. F-keys, *MORE,
confirmation sub files, and explaining the difference between the Enter
key & the Record Advance key can be easily abandoned. A 5250 shop can
easily sllde into these enhancements and at least get their shop out of
the 1990s, this is not a heavy lift.

in my opinion.


On 1/2/2020 3:31 PM, Raul Jager wrote:
This is also My opinion. By pushing the 5250 we will do a disservice to
our favorite platform.

I use 5250, but it is a very bad idea to push it to my users.
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