Jeff,

The problem is that Level 16 is not one savf, it is a combination of any PTF savf for Level 16, which were created 11/13/19,
See link.

https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas4SF99703

IBM support told me no need to remove 16 if 17 is loaded on the system.

I'm in the same boat you are.
I have concerns.

I've had 3 different occurrences where PTFs broke production in the last 6 months.
The PTF cover letters do not always include what is all changing.
I'm still working on the damage caused by:
5733SC1 SI70819 - upgraded OpenSSH disabling ssh-dss (DSA) public key algorithm.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jeff Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Thanks for the offer. I'll let "My Guy" at the cloud provider do it, just want to make sure he agrees.

The ol' light bulb went on in Mr. Obvious head here. If I delete level 16 followed by UPDPTFINF prior to the IPL for MF99207 I won't have any issue.

Never run UPDPTFINF before. Is it a long running command?

Thanks.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:49 PM Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Ok. Larry posted the steps earlier with more detail but basically you
delete the save file that has 16 in it. Then UPDPTFINF.

Now apply as normal.

I get the fear, if you want some help, I can assist tomorrow.

Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects



On Dec 3, 2019, at 2:21 PM, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Jim - I'm sorry if I'm being dense and confused, but I am :)

I do SNDPTFORD, so no image catalog.

- both 16 and 17 are on my system as Not Applied
- DSPPTFCVR *NOTAPY shows *ONLY* MF99207 set to apply at IPL
- I cannot set any more to apply right now because I get "PTF
5770999-MF99207 V7R3M0 requires IPL"

Is this my course of action:

- Do an IPL so MF99207 applies
- then do INSPTF LICPGM((*ALL)) INSTYP(*DLYALL) which will get every
other
PTF set to apply
- do another IPL which will then do both level 16 and 17

I'm asking because in earlier emails both you and Larry said to NOT
do
that
with both 16 and 17 there, then in this latest email you suggest
because
17
is there, I'll be OK,

My system is in the cloud, so the cloud provider is in the loop.
I'd
like
for this group and the cloud provider to agree.

Sorry to be so anal-retentive, but the stakes are pretty high.

Thanks.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:46 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IF 17 is on already you should be past the problem entirely.

How to you apply these that it would be not applied? Did not IPL
from
the
image catalog?

In any case, IPL and it should be OK because 17 is there.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of
Jeff
Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

How do I discard it? WRKPTFGRP and option 4=Delete it? I've never
done that before.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:11 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don't attempt to apply 16, that will cause issues. Discard it.
Apply
17.

The only way 16 does not cause issues is if you are very current
on HIPER and DB groups to start with, mainly the HIPER. It's best
just to
avoid it.

17 has the co/pre requisite table corrected so the process will
work as expected.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of Jeff Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:43 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Like you Paul I have both level 16 and 17 as Not Applied.

If I do DSPPTFCVR SELECT(*NOTAPY), those 2 level 16 PTFs do not show.

Do a:

DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI71241) DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1)
SELECT(SI71254)

and both show as Superseded.

I wonder if Larry still thinks it is dangerous to apply both 16
and 17 at the same time . . .



--


Jeff Crosby
VP Information Systems
UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
P.O. Box 13369
Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
260-422-7531
direct.dilgardfoods.com

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