Rob:
I can see where you can accomplish everything with RDi in an environment
like yours, particularly when everything is in one network, points for that.
Those of us that manage many systems across many customers where we have to
start/stop VPN access each time, that's not such a treat. We are also
dealing with multiple versions of the OS, many times unsupported versions,
so that adds to the intrigue.
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I have 15 lpars of IBM i. Of these, maybe 4 of them even have PDM loaded.
Two of the four have no source on them. Well, maybe a CL source or two for
HA switching but in general, no source. Source is generally on the
development lpar and the objects promoted to production.
I don't see how PDM is such a boon to administration.
Rob Berendt
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Yes.
There is a subset of WDS that is meant only for system admin types (that use
that interface constantly) and it will not edit source types other than CL,
(or REXX I think) and I think that gets compatibility updates, but no new
features.
As much as Jack would like us to modernize, admin of a system is really a
command line deal. PDM helps immensely with that task. For those of us
that manage lots of servers dealing with the RDi connections gets really
tedious after a very short while, so we use green screen.
F8 is really a godsend for those of us in those job roles. I can see where
it's not all that big a deal for many others.
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I know that SEU was stabilized at v6r1. Does that also include PDM?
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:42 AM Mark Waterbury <
mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps we need an RFE to get IBM to also fix this so that it behaves
consistently across all IBM-provided APIs that present a "command line"...
including UIM panels.
*((Excuse me, folks, while I tease the excellent Mark Waterbury!))*
<sarcasm> Oh, that's a wonderful use for IBM i development team hours,
fixing F8</sarcasm>
Instead, if we all get busy converting our source to IFS stream files and
learn to use sshfs to mount the IFS on our local workstation, Rochester can
put the team on porting more packages to PASE and writing man pages for the
PASE C library.
Are we here spend our golden years playing with 1980's technology, or to see
if we can keep the platform alive for another 10-20 years?
Modernize or die!
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