Power/cooling is equal to or less than the chassis needed to host internal
drives.
I've not done the math on the difference between a 50xx SAN and the internal
DASD chassis but in my own case (Agile) it's about the same.
One thing to keep in mind, if you are going to replicate the data using the
SAN then the 5030 is almost a requirement. The CPU/Memory on the 5010 and
5020 just are not up to the task of replication.
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If the goal is to reduce costs will buying a 5010E to do this just shift the
cost to now paying maintenance, electricity, cooling, etc for that? Plus
infrastructure and complexity?
Would that be less than the maintenance costs of having disk expansion units
in your P9?
Rob Berendt
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And since Rob already runs VIOS, then transitioning should be very simple.
Just copy the data over. (short downtime for the load source)
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Move to SAN. The writing is all over the wall. Including with the new 5010E
at least some of the drives (I haven't looked at all of 'em) show *ZERO
maintenance on the SSDs.
On a recent (this week) quote the AMC for SSDs on a V5010 was $7,900 and for
the V5010E $0 and that was for 5 years of maintenance on the SAN. In this
case the SSDs were the 800G size.
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On 8/8/2019 7:57 AM, Rob Berendt wrote:
I got another newsletter this week from a company specializing in
upgrades
and new systems. It had the usual article spouting how SSD's and/or flash
is the here and now and HDD's are a thing of the past. All well and good.
However not mentioning that the cost of maintenance of SSD's is astronomical
after they go out of warranty is disrespectful of customers who do not
replace their systems every 3 years. While HDD's are often included in the
system maintenance SSD's are not.
Do these companies have a vested interest in ensuring that customers
upgrade every 3 years? By not mentioning this maintenance it makes them
look like they are trying to sneak one past you.
I wonder what a comparison of a 5 or 7 year cost of ownership of a P9
loaded with HDDs vs the same loaded with SSD's would look like?
Rob Berendt
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