Re: IBM i software keys for new P9 -- MIDRANGE-L

I still remember an in-place upgrade we did to, I think, a S/38. MES? I just remember a couple of CE's and a bunch of parts all over the place.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power

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Subject: Re: IBM i software keys for new P9

Remember, yes.

Miss, no.

This could take a LONG time and was fraught with peril! One of my
customers did their own 'CISC to RISC' this way but had no idea what
they were doing. (Saving money you know) and when IBM swapped the
hardware NOTHING worked, it wouldn't even start an IPL. They had to PAY
IBM to put it all back. Then pay me to do all the steps they missed.
Then PAY IBM to do the hardware upgrade a second time.

Oh and the serial number isn't in the control panel. That was a rumor.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
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On 12/5/2018 11:01 AM, Christopher Bipes wrote:

Does anyone remember the days when your IBM CE and SE came in and swapped your hardware. They moved the control panel from one system to the other, retaining your serial number. It was real easy for the customer as IBM did all the heaving lifting. They would tell you to do two backups, SAVE 21 and the SAVE STORAGE to tape. Once you completed that, they would shut down your system and do the rest.

I miss those days.

Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.

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Subject: Re: IBM i software keys for new P9

Let me clear up just a tick what Jim mentioned here.

Often companies use the 70 day 'Trial period' to do their migration.
This is not allowed. IBM Sells what is know as 'ITLs' or 'i Temporary
Licenses'. These are sold on the new server and are month by month by
processor core. When purchased they ALSO give you the right to use all
the LPPs licensed to the old box as those will be coming across.

So if you think you can migrate in one month you need one ITL for each
processor core on the new system. If it's going to take you 3 months
you'll need 3x that many.

Amazing to me how many BPs ignore this and let the customer break IBMs T&Cs.

Once you've completed the migration then you input the reduction keys
(requested by your BP as Jim mentiones) onto the old machine and within
a day you'll have the perm keys for the new system. The old system is
thus rendered useless.

If you are in the situation Rob mentioned where you're swinging fiber
cables as your method of migration then there is no system left to put
the reduction keys into!! Again discuss with your BP because IBM has a
procedure for this as well. You will simply be required to indicate that
you've migrated with this method and sign off that there is no internal
disk on the old machine and thus no operating system there to 'reduce'.
Once executed IBM will make the perm keys available to the new machine.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis